Miserable Corporate Mother Fucker

[Ravenshire]

I find it amusing that you tell me I have nothing to complain about simply because of the existence of money (money or fairness)?. You just want money to disappear with absolutely no understanding of its function nor any reasonable idea of how society would function without it. I have no problem with money in and of itself, as I don't have to arrange a direct barter of goods or service when I need groceries. Besides, whatever undeclared 'system' you devise will immediately crumble when the first person decides he/she doesn't want to do something and offers something of value for someone else to take his/her place.

The solution is political and I offered a broad principle that I think would go a long way to achieving a more just society. I am politically active. You then chime in saying I should attempt to solve a problem rather than just preach. The most striking part is that this brilliance was offered right after you waived your hands by saying "I'm sure people would figure something out". Your proposed solution of able-bodied shifts sounds as if there's a gun in the equation. How else do you enforce your proposed policy? Again, the plan fails immediately the first time somebody doesn't want to participate.

I seek justice, not fairness. There is a difference. You won't get my support for pushing some idealized egalitarian society. Some people do in fact work harder than others. Some skills are in fact more valuable to society than others, the problem is that the invisible hand has a difficult time being rational in assigning value. The problem isn't that CEOs don't deserve to make more money, it's the gross imbalance when one considers many companies pay their low level workers an amount that nobody should reasonably expect people to provide for their basic needs with.

The minimum wage should be raised across the board since it is quite obvious that most employers won't do it voluntarily.

You're too simple minded to get what I'm saying. I won't bother explaining in detail until you lose the attitude.

Arrogant much?!?

[Brian37]

It is a free for all ponzi scheme global casino increasingly causing damage to the planet causing more global instability.

[Excited Penguin]

You're too simple minded to get what I'm saying. I won't bother explaining in detail until you lose the attitude.

Arrogant much?!?

There's way too much wrong with how he read what I said for me to be able to further make my point with him. I'd have to write pages. Why should I? Who's going to bother reading? I guess I'll just have to accept the fact that I'm talking about something and he's bringing in something else altogether, totally unrelated to the central idea I'm putting forward.

I will only to respond to such people that actually address what I'm saying, not those that ignore me and subtly change the topic.

[Brian37]

Wouldn't paying everyone too much be a problem too? You can't just start paying everyone what CEOs make, right? Money would lose it's value and we'd be back where we started.

How much people get payed is not really the problem, I think - it's the means to live that need get more uniformly distributed and made available. 

What I'm basically saying is how current societies and economies work is the problem, really. We should work for other reasons than making a living. It's only when this initial problem goes away that we are able to truly work, efficiently, creatively and so on.
The state should provide us with sufficient resources to lead a normal life and we should strive to make it even better or work for the community at large on our own, unincentivized by a need to feed our own families and provide them with comfort and shelter.

It's not about paying everyone 10 million dollars a year, it's about people working for the same company being paid proportionately. Its ridiculous for an executive to make 10 million a year and then call $15 "outrageous" for employees working at the same company. I mean what would be so wrong with employees making $25 dollars an hour and the CEO making 5 million a year?

Whenever I hear a Rethuglitard or Libertarian claim " You don't understand how business or healthy economies work" I want to punch them in the throat, because it is really nothing more than justifying personal greed.

They bemoan independence while justifying slave wages that creates more dependency

[Excited Penguin]

It's not about paying everyone 10 million dollars a year, it's about people working for the same company being paid proportionately. Its ridiculous for an executive to make 10 million a year and then call $15 "outrageous" for employees working at the same company. I mean what would be so wrong with employees making $25 dollars an hour and the CEO making 5 million a year?

Whenever I hear a Rethuglitard or Libertarian claim " You don't understand how business or healthy economies work" I want to punch them in the throat, because it is really nothing more than justifying personal greed.

They bemoan independence while justifying slave wages that creates more dependency

Very mature. I'll look out for your ignorant anger now, lest I get "punched in the throat" by a keyboard warrior.

[Ravenshire]

Arrogant much?!?

There's way too much wrong with how he read what I said for me to be able to further make my point with him. I'd have to write pages. Why should I? Who's going to bother reading? I guess I'll just have to accept the fact that I'm talking about something and he's bringing in something else altogether, totally unrelated to the central idea I'm putting forward.

I will only to respond to such people that actually address what I'm saying, not those that ignore me and subtly change the topic.

Or, you could rage quit again.

Cato whooped your pathetic arguments' ass so completely and yet there's something wrong with his understanding?

Yeah, rage quit might be the best option for you.

[Brian37]

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Whenever I hear a Rethuglitard or Libertarian claim " You don't understand how business or healthy economies work" I want to punch them in the throat, because it is really nothing more than justifying personal greed.

They bemoan independence while justifying slave wages that creates more dependency

Very mature. I'll look out for your ignorant anger now, lest I get "punched in the throat" by a keyboard warrior.

The Koch brothers and Walmart family are the immature ones who stupidly think they can't live on less. When fellow billionaire Nick Hanaour says you can afford to pay more, and should because it keeps your feedback loop healthy, you have no case.

And your "keyboard warrior" stupid attempt at a slur is absurd. They have tons more money and fleets of lawyers which would make them petty bullies to be threatened by a poor person with a keyboard.
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Oh and when you get a chance look up the word sarcasm.

[Cato]

You're too simple minded to get what I'm saying. I won't bother explaining in detail until you lose the attitude.

Simple minded? That invective should be reserved for people that recommend getting rid of money as a means of combating income inequality without giving any consideration as to why money exists in the first place.

Disagreeing with you is not 'having an attitude'. Calling someone simple minded because he partially disagrees with your input is most certainly 'having an attitude'. Perhaps we can continue the conversation after your balls drop.