atheism and children

[Tartarus Sauce]

You clearly haven't read any of the threads C_L has made. She's made it explicitly clear through both her words and actions from day one that her reason for being here is to listen, yes listen, to the standpoints of us atheists because she is genuinely curious about our opinions. "Force-feeding" us her beliefs is the antithesis of her purpose for being here, she only shares her beliefs when directly asked about them.

Sorry, this is a DISCUSSION forum, it isn't a presentation for people who don't want to participate.

She does participate in debates, because people never stop asking her questions about her beliefs, which she answers. Is she "not participating" because she doesn't meet your operating standards of an intellectual debate? I'm inclined to agree with her on that, why should she give a shit? She's here to learn about our opinions and answer questions thrown her way, that frequently involve her justifying said beliefs. I take it you aren't satisfied with her justifications, but since she's not here to prove anything, again why should she care?

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

Trouble with children is that they are so immature.

And loud. Without any sense for harmonics. And never, never let them sing. It's awful. Only enjoyable for parents since they're biased.

I'd like you to know that my niece is a professional singer(I may or may not have paid him in chocolates to sing)and can recite the whole abc's without pause.

[Tartarus Sauce]

I'm pretty sure if you go back far enough, that whole squabble between you and her originated from a direct question leveled at her about her beliefs. I can assure you she has no interest in forcing her beliefs on you.

No. The squabble has more to do with her arrogant, insulting, and condescending comments.

Her beliefs, as she has presented them, are so ridiculous that it's pretty much impossible to be genuinely upset by them. But it's hard to completely ignore her insulting and condescending comments.

I'm also very disappointed by her weak attempts to deflect and prevaricate. I feel her methods of discussion have been deceptive and willfully obtuse.

Trying to reframe the ongoing discussion as my failure to appreciate her genuine intent to "share her beliiefs" is entirely unimpressive.

But knock yourself out.

Actually I agree with you, her debating skills aren't that impressive, I'd have no problems admitting that. It's not a failure of you to appreciate her intent, my original message was directed at pool for genuinely not understanding what her intent was. My response to you was simply to affirm that her behavior did not contradict my description.

[Catholic_Lady]

No. The squabble has more to do with her arrogant, insulting, and condescending comments.

Her beliefs, as she has presented them, are so ridiculous that it's pretty much impossible to be genuinely upset by them. But it's hard to completely ignore her insulting and condescending comments.

I'm also very disappointed by her weak attempts to deflect and prevaricate. I feel her methods of discussion have been deceptive and willfully obtuse.

Trying to reframe the ongoing discussion as my failure to appreciate her genuine intent to "share her beliiefs" is entirely unimpressive.

But knock yourself out.

Actually I agree with you, her debating skills aren't that impressive, I'd have no problems admitting that. It's not a failure of you to appreciate her intent, my original message was directed at pool for genuinely not understanding what her intent was. My response to you was simply to affirm that her behavior did not contradict my description.

Lol, is it even called "debating" if I'm just answering questions with straight forward, short replies, and not actually trying to change anyone's mind?

[Javaman]

Actually I agree with you, her debating skills aren't that impressive, I'd have no problems admitting that. It's not a failure of you to appreciate her intent, my original message was directed at pool for genuinely not understanding what her intent was. My response to you was simply to affirm that her behavior did not contradict my description.

Lol, is it even called "debating" if I'm just answering questions with straight forward, short replies, and not actually trying to change anyone's mind?

Frankly, the answers you've so far provided are just not good enough to change anyone's mind

So what's your straight forward, short reply to my question about the punishments doled out to rapists and IVf'ers?

And do you admit that an analogy is, in fact, a comparison? Like the dictionary says?

[Cephus]

Sorry, this is a DISCUSSION forum, it isn't a presentation for people who don't want to participate.

She does participate in debates, because people never stop asking her questions about her beliefs, which she answers. Is she "not participating" because she doesn't meet your operating standards of an intellectual debate? I'm inclined to agree with her on that, why should she give a shit? She's here to learn about our opinions and answer questions thrown her way, that frequently involve her justifying said beliefs. I take it you aren't satisfied with her justifications, but since she's not here to prove anything, again why should she care?

That's not how intelligent, rational discussions occur.  Anyone who isn't going to discuss and defend their own views, but only try to take from others and give nothing back in return, is not worth having a discussion with.

[Tartarus Sauce]

She does participate in debates, because people never stop asking her questions about her beliefs, which she answers. Is she "not participating" because she doesn't meet your operating standards of an intellectual debate? I'm inclined to agree with her on that, why should she give a shit? She's here to learn about our opinions and answer questions thrown her way, that frequently involve her justifying said beliefs. I take it you aren't satisfied with her justifications, but since she's not here to prove anything, again why should she care?

That's not how intelligent, rational discussions occur.  Anyone who isn't going to discuss and defend their own views, but only try to take from others and give nothing back in return, is not worth having a discussion with.

Then take to your own advice and stop engaging her. It's not her job to bend to your expectations anymore than it's your obligation to respect her beliefs.

[Catholic_Lady]

Lol, is it even called "debating" if I'm just answering questions with straight forward, short replies, and not actually trying to change anyone's mind?

Frankly, the answers you've so far provided are just not good enough to change anyone's mind

So what's your straight forward, short reply to my question about the punishments doled out to rapists and IVf'ers?

And do you admit that an analogy is, in fact, a comparison? Like the dictionary says?

I have already addressed this. You just don't like my responses, but as Tarty accurately said, I don't care lol.

[Javaman]

Then take to your own advice and stop engaging her. It's not her job to bend to your expectations anymore than it's your obligation to respect her beliefs.

Engagement is not one-sided.

[Cephus]

That's not how intelligent, rational discussions occur.  Anyone who isn't going to discuss and defend their own views, but only try to take from others and give nothing back in return, is not worth having a discussion with.

Then take to your own advice and stop engaging her. It's not her job to bend to your expectations anymore than it's your obligation to respect her beliefs.

But it is her obligation to follow the forum rules, which she isn't doing.

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