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Are we teleporting?
#21
RE: Are we teleporting?
We're saying that movement is relative, and impossible to determine if you want to take 'everything else' as a reference point.
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#22
RE: Are we teleporting?
So,No.

There you go,Alex. Tongue
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#23
RE: Are we teleporting?
Wait,so if we are in fact teleporting.Doesn't that mean that there is no infinity? :o
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#24
RE: Are we teleporting?
(August 15, 2015 at 12:15 am)pool Wrote: Wait,so if we are in fact teleporting.Doesn't that mean that there is no infinity? :o

I have no idea what the hell you're going on about.
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#25
RE: Are we teleporting?
(August 15, 2015 at 12:15 am)pool Wrote: Wait,so if we are in fact teleporting.Doesn't that mean that there is no infinity? :o

We aren't. ಠ_ಠ
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#26
RE: Are we teleporting?
Pool, you do realise that you are wizzing at 35,000 mph through space right now...
Again, everything is relative.
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#27
RE: Are we teleporting?
(August 15, 2015 at 8:53 am)ignoramus Wrote: Pool, you do realise that you are wizzing at 35,000 mph through space right now...
Again, everything is relative.

And to stress that the 35000 are relative to something...
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#28
RE: Are we teleporting?
(August 14, 2015 at 5:40 am)pool Wrote: I'm confused are you telling me that everything is in a state of rest?

Yes or No? Tongue :>

No, I'm challenging you to come up with a good criterion for what you call being at rest, and what you call moving. My point being that you say that movement is special, because it is teleportation, and I'm saying how can you distinguish between teleportation happening or not at a given moment if whether there is movement depends entirely on what observer you ask. You then tried to argue that absolute movement is defined as moving relative to "space" (your picture) and now I wonder how space provides you with an absolute criterion with which you could tell movement from rest. Only then would it make sense to argue that something special is going on during movement Smile
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#29
RE: Are we teleporting?
(August 15, 2015 at 10:13 am)Alex K Wrote:
(August 14, 2015 at 5:40 am)pool Wrote: I'm confused are you telling me that everything is in a state of rest?

Yes or No? Tongue :>

No, I'm challenging you to come up with a good criterion for what you call being at rest, and what you call moving. My point being that you say that movement is special, because it is teleportation, and I'm saying how can you distinguish between teleportation happening or not at a given moment if whether there is movement depends entirely on what observer you ask. You then tried to argue that absolute movement is defined as moving relative to "space" (your picture) and now I wonder how space provides you with an absolute criterion with which you could tell movement from rest. Only then would it make sense to argue that something special is going on during movement Smile

Truth be told,i tried to answer that question and couldn't come up with a satisfying answer. Rolleyes
With my very limited knowledge on the subject:

Answer:
If the coordinates space of an object is fixed then it is in a state of rest.
If the coordinates space of an object is varying then it is in a state of motion.
In short,for an object to be in a state of rest it has to be in a fixed specific point on space(?) unaffected by anything else,affected by only itself.

I hope i'm not wrong when i say that we are in a constant state of motion(movement?),since you said that we weren't in a state of rest.If we are,then i have reasons to believe that this motion(movement?) is not "continuous".You're the Physicist,you'll know what i mean before i know what i mean Tongue
My reasons being:

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Consider that i want to move from: 
* x to x+(an infinitely small number)
* If there was an infinitely small number then i wouldn't be able to move.
* But i am able to move from x to x+1.
* If 1 is a collection of a group of infinitely small numbers then i shouldn't have been able to move from x to x+1.(Because a bigger thing is a concatenation of smaller things..)
* This lead me to think that maybe infinity isn't possible.

Get it?
I can move from x to x+1 but not from x to x+infinitely small number and assuming 1 is a concatenation of smaller things(union?) the statement seems contradictory..

(P.S I wouldn't suggest taking everything literally)
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#30
RE: Are we teleporting?
Pool, the whole point is that movement is *relative*. You can be both in a state of rest and in motion to two different reference points.
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