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Donald Trump and political correctness
#61
RE: Donald Trump and political correctness
Trump can't make Mexico do shit.
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
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#62
RE: Donald Trump and political correctness
(August 21, 2015 at 12:32 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(August 19, 2015 at 5:47 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Well, calling immigrants "rapists" seems like it's at the small end of the bell-curve. He's also said that he'll make Mexico pay for a border wall, which is a unique and unfulfillable promise.

Seriously, his mouth is in fourth, his brains in neutral.
But suppose Trump did get elected and Mexico did end up paying for the wall.  Do you think people's opinion of him would change from negative to positive?

Won't happen more should it. Our obtuse allies in Israel have a wall, and so did Germany. And I have to admit, as much of a clowm car GOP is, even many their side admit it is unrealistic.
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#63
RE: Donald Trump and political correctness
(August 21, 2015 at 12:32 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(August 19, 2015 at 5:47 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Well, calling immigrants "rapists" seems like it's at the small end of the bell-curve. He's also said that he'll make Mexico pay for a border wall, which is a unique and unfulfillable promise.

Seriously, his mouth is in fourth, his brains in neutral.
But suppose Trump did get elected and Mexico did end up paying for the wall.  Do you think people's opinion of him would change from negative to positive?

Won't happen more should it. Our obtuse allies in Israel have a wall, and so did Germany. And I have to admit, as much of a clowm car GOP is, even many their side admit it is unrealistic.
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#64
RE: Donald Trump and political correctness
(August 19, 2015 at 3:55 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(August 19, 2015 at 3:51 pm)Pizza Wrote: Trump isn't just political incorrect, he's a classless jackass.

Well see, this is the problem. I don't think you can go off the standard political script without getting called names. If he called someone a classless jackass he would be torn to shreds by the media. It's a stupid double standard.

That's only because he would be the pot calling the kettle black.

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#65
RE: Donald Trump and political correctness
Trump's problem isn't his bluntness per se. I mean, Shrubya certainly wasn't a wordsmith, and he had the market cornered on "Dude most Americans would like to have a beer with" PR, which let him beat a couple of Democratic candidates that were utterly devoid of any personality whatsoever despite his atrocious policy decisions across the board.

No, Trump has two main faults:

1. He's an idiot. He actually believes his own hype. He thinks he can browbeat others into giving him what he wants, whether it's Mexico or other nation states, or our own Congress. But, he's alienating the very people he would have to work with. The establishment GOP does not like him. Not because of the "Look out! We have a fiery outsider who's going to change Washington outsider bad ass over here!" narrative he's pushing (and the idiots are swallowing), but because he's a bully who has no real sense of long term planning. He wants what he wants, and he's going to do whatever it takes to get it now, and fuck everyone else who stands in his way. That dovetails nicely into...

2. He has exactly the wrong temperament for this job. Forget his shortsightedness and bigotry. He has no ability to lead in a time of national crisis. Imagine him in charge during something like 9-11, Katrina, Sandy, Sandy Hook, Ferguson, Baltimore, etc. etc. Imagine him during delicate negotiations or peace talks, even if he's not directly involved with them. He may, may be able to deftly handle the nuts and bolts, delegating authority and putting resources where they should be to deal with whatever the issue may be. But how would he lead the nation? How would he do attempting to console and unify the people? I'm betting he'd be terrible because he's the kind that sees sadness and temperance and restraint as weakness.

Trump is a guy who is used to being a big fish in a small pond. He's used to having his multi-billion dollar brand behind him, giving him the cachet and leverage necessary to get what he wants most of the time while also being able to avoid the consequences of failure. Of which he's had several. And all of that goes away if he becomes president. He'll no longer be a billionaire throwing his weight around. He'll be a world leader dealing with other entities that have a real economic and military impact on us. And I don't think he's prepared for people suddenly no longer giving a shit about "The Donald" cult of personality.
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
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#66
RE: Donald Trump and political correctness
(August 21, 2015 at 12:32 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(August 19, 2015 at 5:47 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Well, calling immigrants "rapists" seems like it's at the small end of the bell-curve. He's also said that he'll make Mexico pay for a border wall, which is a unique and unfulfillable promise.

Seriously, his mouth is in fourth, his brains in neutral.
But suppose Trump did get elected and Mexico did end up paying for the wall.  Do you think people's opinion of him would change from negative to positive?

Probably, but I'm addressing the possibility, which is about zero-point-zero. His levers are both weak and antagonistic, which is a bad combination in international relations.

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#67
RE: Donald Trump and political correctness
Trump is honest enough, for certain. We should not base any vote on honesty to the degree of detriment, but rather cast the vote in honor of positive change.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#68
RE: Donald Trump and political correctness
Yup. Being an asshole or not is really irrelevant. Brashness can only go so far. At the end of the day, it comes down to having an agenda that will help the country and the ability to lead during crisis. Trump has neither. He's a carnival huckster.
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
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#69
RE: Donald Trump and political correctness
Dubya Revisited.

The republicunts still like 'em stupid.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/trump-co...st-issues/


Quote:Trump complains about ‘gotcha question’ again after blowing answer on Middle East issues

Ah, what's the worst that could happen?
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#70
RE: Donald Trump and political correctness
Let us hope he remains unprepared.

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