Evidence God Exists: Part II

[tackattack]

Since both of us would be speaking from our observances thor, i'd be subjetive and useless, I don't need another one of those conversations. I'll just leave it at I've seen evidence to the contrary.

[Thor]

Since both of us would be speaking from our observances thor, i'd be subjetive and useless, I don't need another one of those conversations. I'll just leave it at I've seen evidence to the contrary.

I don't know what "evidence" you are referring to, so I can't comment on it. As for me, I have seen zero evidence that would lead me to conclude that a deity exists.

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The vast majority of atheists I know are quite open minded. We are open to the possibility that a god exists...

Right. That's why atheists spend half their time posting attacks and insults, often obscene, directed at God or Jesus. If they were open to the possibility that God exists, they wouldn't commit the unforgivable sin of blasphemy.

"Blasphemy" is a "sin" connected to your mythology. Why should it concern me? Do you follow the proscriptions of all religions? You know... just to be safe? Do you pray five times a day and face Mecca as demanded by thye Muslim religion? Do you not eat pork as demanded by Judaism? Do you hold cows as sacred as per Hinduism? If not, why not?

[downbeatplumb]

The vast majority of atheists I know are quite open minded. We are open to the possibility that a god exists...

Right. That's why atheists spend half their time posting attacks and insults, often obscene, directed at God or Jesus. If they were open to the possibility that God exists, they wouldn't commit the unforgivable sin of blasphemy.

Blasphemy against which god would that be?

There are so many to choose from each equally unlikely.

As thor said I am open to the possibility of a deity, but the evidence would have to be very good.

But as there isnt any, I'll continue to act as though god /gods don't exist, because in all likelyhood they dont.

Comprenez vous?

[Minimalist]

We are open to the possibility that a god exists...

However, it is merely the tiniest possibility....I can't disprove Bertram Russel's teapot, either, but I can state that there is no evidence in favor of it.

That is all the 'doubt' you get for any potential notion of your sky-daddy.

[fr0d0]

Or an open-minded atheist

The vast majority of atheists I know are quite open minded. We are open to the possibility that a god exists. All you have to do is present some convincing evidence (keep in mind that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence).

Now, the vast majority of BELIEVERS will not even consider the possibility that their deity is a fraud. I have flat out asked many of them what would convince them that their god does NOT exist and, overwhelmingly, the answer I have received is "nothing".

So who is truly close minded?

I look at this and I honestly don't know. Which one is more closed minded?

[Thor]

I look at this and I honestly don't know. Which one is more closed minded?

How am I closed minded when, as I said, I will consider that a deity exists provided convincing evidence can be shown?

[Welsh cake]

This was meant to be more of an expression, semi-slogan, if you will, for my OP. But a lot of you took it too literally, as a lot of replies were built around the premise that "lack of evidence is not evidence." I just wanted to point out that it is not lack of evidence that I am presenting as evidence, but the results of 500 years of failed experiments. That's what my evidence is for God's existence. 500 years of scientific experiments have demonstrated that life cannot be created from inanimate matter.

No. You are a broken record Angel. When we said, go back and try again, we meant, GO BACK AND TRY AGAIN. Have you not even bothered to read everyone's responses? You have a mental block that is preventing you from understanding that attempting to refute or disprove abiogenesis (which I maybe willing to accept if only for the sake of your argument's premise) does not then automatically give you any grounds to follow up a claim regarding an infinite cosmos creator's existence. You can't have your cake and eat it.

@Thor and Caecilian: You can't equate a couple of inventions, or the development of technology to the origin of life. Let's at least find a concept that's analogous to the theory that life can appear out of thin air.

Are you talking about cognitive science or contemporary philosophy? Concepts don't actually exist or manifest in reality, they're mental representations or rather, abstract ideas.

Right. That's why atheists spend half their time posting attacks and insults, often obscene, directed at God or Jesus. If they were open to the possibility that God exists, they wouldn't commit the unforgivable sin of blasphemy.

Usually we're directing our criticisms at your half-baked hypothesises, because atheists don't actually believe in the evidence-free God you are trying to assert.

What I find sad is how oblivious you are to Atheist Forums' banner which clearly states: "BLASPHEMY IS A VICTIMLESS CRIME".

[fr0d0]

I look at this and I honestly don't know. Which one is more closed minded?

How am I closed minded when, as I said, I will consider that a deity exists provided convincing evidence can be shown?

If you don't know why is that better or worse? for either side?

[Thor]

If you don't know why is that better or worse? for either side?

If I don't know what? I don't understand your meaning here.

[fr0d0]

As convincing evidence is an impossible requirement, you're as ignorant as a non questioning Christian (I don't mean that badly. Why should either of you know?). You're both as bad.