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The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
(September 21, 2015 at 7:43 pm)Losty Wrote: "make your best case for why atheism is true"

There are people who don't believe in any gods. Boom. Checkmate.

So lame. So so lame.
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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
Because..?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
(September 21, 2015 at 6:38 pm)Minimalist Wrote: So don't watch.  He's constantly pulling the same shit I suspect because he thinks it makes him some kind of martyr.

Let's get something straight about him, C/L.  He's a cherry-picking asshole. 

That's because I can. There are LOTS of cherries which refute your stupid mythicism to choose from...I just love the ones from atheists best because they are so IN. YOUR. FACE.

Quote:He loves to trot out a line from Ehrman but I have yet to see him address Ehrman's conclusion to his bullshit resurrection gibberish.

Quote:So too with the resurrection of Jesus. Historians can, in theory, examine aspects of the tradition. In theory, for example, a historian could look into the question of whether Jesus really was buried in a known tomb and whether three days later that same tomb was found to be empty, with no body in it. What the historian cannot conclude, as a historian, is that God therefore must have raised the body and taken it up to heaven. The historian has no access to information like that, and that conclusion requires a set of theological presuppositions that not all historians share. Moreover, it is possible to come up with perfectly sensible other solutions as to why a once-occupied tomb may have become empty: someone stole the body; someone innocently decided to move the body to another tomb; the whole story was in fact a legend, that is, the burial and discovery of an empty tomb were tales that later Christians invented to persuade others that the resurrection indeed happened.


Of course....whether or not the tomb was ever "occupied" is solely dependent on the same book of bullshit which Ehrman has spent a career trashing but for now it is enough to make the point.

Hilarious. Ehrman is an atheist, so naturally he will draw some conclusions that I do not agree with.

But one thing is clear: Ehrman schools you again on the fact that yes, Jesus did exist.

So, what we're down to, Min, is the fact that Jesus really did exist and your whole life at this point is built upon the lie that He did not.

That's kinda sad, actually. Really sad.
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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
(September 21, 2015 at 7:57 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Hilarious. Ehrman is an atheist, so naturally he will draw some conclusions that I do not agree with.

But one thing is clear: Ehrman schools you again on the fact that yes, Jesus did exist.

So, what we're down to, Min, is the fact that Jesus really did exist and your whole life at this point is built upon the lie that He did not.

That's kinda sad, actually. Really sad.

You think anyone's life is built on the conclusion that Jesus didn't exist?  I'm sitting here puzzling on how that could be so.  I suppose you might build a career on that proposition, but a life?  Really?  So you think Min's life would change in what way if you convinced him that there was a non-divine Jesus?
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
(September 21, 2015 at 7:54 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(September 21, 2015 at 7:43 pm)Losty Wrote: "make your best case for why atheism is true"

There are people who don't believe in any gods. Boom. Checkmate.

So lame. So so lame.

Arguing for atheism is lame. Atheism is a lack of belief in any god. What is there to argue?
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay

0/10

Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
(September 21, 2015 at 7:23 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:
(September 21, 2015 at 9:01 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Randy, in my experience most Christian forums will ban you simply for being a atheist. I was banned from Christianforums.org immediately and on worthy Christian forums they don't ban you out right but they only allow you access to one subforum.

Catholic Answers Forums will not ban you for being an atheist.

They will ban you for behaving like Minimalist.

I may have to try that for myself as I am skeptical of that. However of the three major atheist forums: this one, ttaf, and A+ I know here and over at ttaf many theists are allowed to post freely provided they follow the same rules as everyone else. Now A+ is a bit different, but they have a rap for being nuts over there.
I propose a social experiment. We take several atheists from here, and we each approach the forum from a different approach, but approaches that used by theists here.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
(September 21, 2015 at 8:15 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:
(September 21, 2015 at 8:11 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: In case you are interested: http://atheistforums.org/thread-34779.html

Thanks for the kind words, btw.

I'll check it out when my fingers are not flying so furiously (and I can tone down the alliteration, apparently). 

I rarely agree with you, C_L, as you know... but your heart is kind and in the right place, and I think that is the single most important consideration when taking the measure of a person. So I like the hell out of ye. Smile


No worries, it's long and boring and my participation doesn't begin till page 6, but since it's been brought up in the argument, at least you can have the chance to judge for yourself if you are curious. Shy

Thanks again for the kind things you said to me. I like you too, as you know.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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