You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.
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The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
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You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.
10) Thought you were someone else
11) Keyboard pissing me off 12) Atheist rage 13) Soulless projection
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh (September 25, 2015 at 11:45 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: In what way, as an atheist, would you have said that man is less than perfect? What is the standard?In the sense that people are far less than what they could actually be. So much unfulfilled potential. But you ask a very good question. By what standard can an atheist make value judgments? It took me a while to realize that the moral theory of the Nichomachean Ethics that I espoused presupposed such a standard that, as an ontological naturalist, I could not supply. (September 25, 2015 at 2:45 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: In the sense that people are far less than what they could actually be. So much unfulfilled potential. No, people are less than perfect because we have nukes but still follow our competitive ape instincts. Breast pounding is much more popular than actually looking for an agreement. That goes for politics as well as economics as well as individual relations.
"Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp; or what's a heaven for?"
-- Robert Browning I think you're selling the human capacity to be human somewhat short, Chad.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
September 26, 2015 at 8:05 am
(This post was last modified: September 26, 2015 at 8:06 am by Homeless Nutter.)
(September 25, 2015 at 2:45 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: In the sense that people are far less than what they could actually be. So much unfulfilled potential. [...] How do you figure that? You're comparing real people, living in a real, complex world to some naive, childish idea of humans, that you got from fairy-tales about princes, knights and wizards. It's a misanthropic view, typical for people who prefer to live in a fantasy world, rather than the real one. It's like that retarded idea, that humans use only 10% of their brains - wishful thinking, with no basis in facts and copious amounts of evidence to the contrary.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
(September 25, 2015 at 2:45 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(September 25, 2015 at 11:45 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: In what way, as an atheist, would you have said that man is less than perfect? What is the standard?In the sense that people are far less than what they could actually be. So much unfulfilled potential. But you ask a very good question. By what standard can an atheist make value judgments? It took me a while to realize that the moral theory of the Nichomachean Ethics that I espoused presupposed such a standard that, as an ontological naturalist, I could not supply. It seems to me that our technology and knowledge about the sciences have advanced far beyond that of our forebears - but our morality has not. We have better stuff, but we are not better people.
Yeah, there's a reason you used the word "seems" there.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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