How it was forged.

[WinterHold]

Adaptation is one fact of our biological selves. As the nature of all creatures on this earth, lifeforms adapt, mutate; either mentally or physically.

Dogs can turn from the wilderness of their former selves into obedient partners of their owners, so as the case with many other creatures, acting

within the boundaries & constraints of their existence.

Humans are no difference, adapting & mutating too to overcome their current state, though within a huge boundary that actually extends to limits

only matched by the complexity of their neurological grids, that of course in terms of mutation of the thought; that which gave them their rank atop

of the food chain; surpassing all other living forms known to exist.

Though the feature shared between humans and all others, is seeking the easiest path to achieve a certain goal. If the mind can from the goal,

and the physical brain is strong enough, the achievement can be done in marvelous ways, and humans with no doubt mastered this natural

instinct, since the dawn of humanity.

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Islam as a religion, started by a human claiming to be a chosen individual to carry a message from a higher entity; non human entity that created

this whole life, and the universe encapsulating it. He claimed that a stream of revelations were being told to him, and that the entity that revealed

them called that group of revelations "the Quran". Yet to be grouped through a life time into a book, acting as the code for those want to escape

a promised fire that consumes all, and want to live forever in a promised garden with no misery.

As it was preached, the book received huge appealing & huge refusal, causing a war in the deserts of Mecca & Madina, with the entity promising

in the book that those believing it as their code of life shall surpass & win the war. When the preacher & his book won the war, Islam was finally

fully completed, disclosing the book.

As time moved on, people started to grow tired of the book and what it preaches, and as the habit is with the human mind, mutations started to

grow. After 400 years of the book's closure, Muslims started to mutate its ideas, giving the mutations the name "Hadith". Collections were made,

containing "talks -the literal meaning of Hadith in Arabic-" of locals, claiming to have heard "talks" from the mouth of the original Quran preacher.

As forgery cannot take place with the original text -being memorized and physically owned by millions-, the Hadiths were an extension that can

add more messages to the original text and even negates it at some points; as it's claimed "coming from the mouth of the original preacher; then

it is as legit as the original". Thus, according to this new mutation, one cannot study or read the Quran without a certain set of Hadiths.

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From that point, sects exploded & branched, with every sect taking a group of Hadiths while ignoring others, While all believe in different interpretations

of the Quran -given that they use different set of Hadiths to interpret it- , the 2 sects which emerged with majorities were the famous "Sunna" & "Shia" sects.

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As an example of the previous point/s ;

-A direct negation of the Quran using a Hadith ( Used by both Sunna & Shia). (Killing for apostasy)

Quran :

Sura  2 - Verse 256

There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.

Hadith :

Mohammed said: "Whoever changes his religion, kill him", narrated by Al-Bukhari and Muslim."

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-A direct mutation of an Idea never present in the Quran. (Stoning).

Quran :

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Hadith :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning#In_Islam

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While in this current state, Islam that is known today can't mostly escape the grid of Hadiths. With that, the source as promised kept, yet the religion forged via an external mutation. As the followers couldn't bear the original text, they forced external attachments to it.

[Iroscato]

Who cares. Christianity, Islam, Judaism, it's all bullshit.

[ignoramus]

The killing in the name of this "bullshit" certainly isn't.

[Iroscato]

Meh, skim-read. I thought it was another one-and-run poster. They start blurring into one lately

[brewer]

Just sounds like humans applying rationalization and justification to get what they want or explain their behavior. Islam is not unique.

[ignoramus]

Atlas, please introduce yourself in the relevant section ... you seem legit and knowledgeable ...

[ReptilianPeon]

Ok great, so Quran 2:256 says that. So why then, the Ridda Wars (Wars of Apostasy)? These people were the Sahabah/Salaf yet even they were not given freedom of thought/religion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridda_wars

I'm just trying to understand the glaring contradiction. But let's not forget, either, the story of the Sikh guru Guru Tegh Bahadur. When people try and pass up Muhammad as a rational individual they say things like "he was severely persecuted yet he continued to pass on the message", therefore he must be telling the truth. Guru Tegh Bahadur had it way worse than Muhammad; he was locked up in a cage by the Fascist Mugal rulers of India and beheaded in front of his friends. Yet, he remained convinced of the truth of Sikhism until his death. Need I go on?

P.S. Welcome to Atheist Forums.

[downbeatplumb]

Atlas, please introduce yourself in the relevant section ... you seem legit and knowledgeable ...

Didn't we have another Atlas at one time who was muslim! coincidence?

[abaris]

Ever thought about a proselytizing contest between christians and muslims?

Must be fun to watch.

[Minimalist]

As time moved on, people started to grow tired of the book and what it preaches,

I know exactly how those people felt.