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RE: Fucking Cops: Volume II
September 25, 2015 at 9:48 pm
(September 25, 2015 at 9:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:The former detective bureau evidence officer passed off handguns and rifles turned over to the department as his own and sold the weapons at two gun stores, Molinelli said in a statement.
See, there you go. I turn in my guns and the cops put them back out on the street. So, the guns are still on the street, but I no longer have one.
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RE: Fucking Cops: Volume II
September 25, 2015 at 9:51 pm
You're still safer without it.
Unless you're black and have a broken tail light and a cop sees you.
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Fucking Cops: Volume II
September 25, 2015 at 11:13 pm
(September 24, 2015 at 5:41 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: (September 24, 2015 at 3:40 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I see in some places we are already there.
Thanks, Rock.
It's not in the article, but in Missouri, many counties are sending prisoners a "bill" for each day they stayed in the county jails... of course, in prison, they cannot work except at $40/month (max!) jobs, so the bill follows them back on the street, and may result in their reincarceration. While in prison, it means that whatever money they do earn (minus $5/month for soap, toothpaste, etc) is taken from their pay and sent to the county. It also means that if you fight your case, which may result in a minimum stay of 8 months (Speedy Trial limit in Missouri) or more likely a year or two (since Public Defenders in this state have the right to wave your Speedy Trial rights for you, and usually do because they're so swamped with cases, then tell you about it later), putting pressure on the defendant to plead out quickly so they don't stack up a bill.
I filed cases on behalf of some of the inmates, claiming the practice is unconstitutional as a violation of Equal Protection, but none of them had made it to the appeals court ruling stage (local courts always shoot down the first round of inmate petitions, requiring an appeal, which has a "filing fees" of $90 at each level of court applied to, so $270 in total, not counting xerox copies and stamps to mail the numerous copies required to apply) by the time I got out.
If you're ever in Colorado and have the unfortunate luck of being arrested in San Miguel county and happen to visit the Telluride jail, you'll find that you're charged on a per day basis for your involuntary stay.
Been that way for at least 15-20 years.
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Fucking Cops: Volume II
September 25, 2015 at 11:15 pm
(September 25, 2015 at 9:51 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You're still safer without it.
Unless you're black and have a broken tail light and a cop sees you.
I think the cop threads are much better without the gun debate.
Can't we all just agree that cops are (nearly universally) pieces of shit?
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RE: Fucking Cops: Volume II
September 25, 2015 at 11:18 pm
"You can't always get what you want....."
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RE: Fucking Cops: Volume II
September 25, 2015 at 11:20 pm
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September 25, 2015 at 11:22 pm
(September 25, 2015 at 11:18 pm)Minimalist Wrote: "You can't always get what you want....."
I typically don't like to generalize so widely, but I really do think there's something about the position of a police officer that attracts a particular personality which should not have any kind of power over any citizenship.
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RE: Fucking Cops: Volume II
September 26, 2015 at 12:48 am
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A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: Fucking Cops: Volume II
September 28, 2015 at 11:43 pm
That's true of the settlement of any lawsuit. It is also a major reason for filing a lot of them. The system sucks and everyone knows it.
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RE: Fucking Cops: Volume II
September 29, 2015 at 12:03 am
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I don't really understand what the point is, though, unless they're really just hoping the inmate will die because our jails are notoriously overcrowded. They're basically deinsentivizing people to actually surrender when they get caught doing something wrong. if you're likely to die in a cell, you may as well go out fighting.
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