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[Foxaèr]

The difference is clear in the ill logic of his comparisons.

[Aractus]

 there's no such thing as a mental disorder.

Apparently in this article the phenomena of mental disorders exist but there's no such thing as them because why should they be defined that certain way. What the fuck, if the phenomena exists what the fuck does he expect us to call the phenomena? SOMETHING I would think. Why not mental disorders? Sigh.

Just bothers me when people suggest everything that is wrong with something but produce no better alternatives and the mere absence of an alternative is worse than the 'problem' they are critiquing. Sigh.

The phenomena is "disharmony with people's mental health" or something along those lines. Labelling things we don't understand as "disorders" is what the author I linked to is opposed to.

BIID actually is a disorder.  It's a real disorder and it doesn't have to be associated with transsexuality.  I know, probably better than damn near anyone here, that it IS associate with us, but it doesn't have to be.  Truth be told, the legitimate medical professionals, most of the ones who actually matter, they'll dismiss that association instantly.  They actually understand the difference.  If someone legitimately has BIID, I don't hate them, I feel bad for them; the ones I get pissed at are the asshats in the media or in the political arena who don't know the difference between the two.  

Why do we notice these stories?  Because they're rare and because they're rare, they tend to be sensationalist.  If it was something that happened all the time, we wouldn't even notice.  This is how the news works.  

Truth is, if she decides she wants to blind herself and a trained, licensed medical professional helped her with it, more power to them.  I'm willing to bet that a professional who has dedicated years of his life to his field, and knows he can be sued and lose his medical license if something goes wrong, I would think he knows the situation better than I do and cares about the situation enough to resolve it properly.  I mean, yeah, it might seem strange to me, but I'm surethere are plenty of people out there who think it's strange to want to have your testicles removed.

With all due respect Tara, the similarities between BIID and GID are obvious to anyone. The "procedure" was carried out a psychologist not a psychiatrist - so no they don't have the right to perform surgeries on people, but with that said the patient is much happier now, so there would be no reason to go after the psychologist for mistreatment of a patient/professional misconduct.

GID is also "actually a disorder", as I mentioned earlier labelling mental conditions as "disorders" is not necessarily always right. Some patients don't mind being told they have a disorder - but depending on the patient and depending on the condition they have, there are plenty who do not feel their condition should be viewed as a 'disorder'.

[Godscreated]

 

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You might be right, but I don't hear people objecting to cutting and other forms of self mutilation, they might not be as sever but they are of the same mind set. I know other drastic mutilations have been discussed but, when you get right down to it there's no difference other than severity. At any rate the psychiatrist should be held accountable in the minds of very one who believes in justice. If the psychiatrist hadn't of poured the drain cleaner in her eyes, she may have her sight today, seems to me she may not have had the nerve to do it herself, so I believe that it wasn't unethical it was criminal. If someone dashed drain cleaner into a stranger's eyes they would be prosecuted without question. I see no difference in the two, she's mentally disabled and not able to say no because of her disability, the stranger wouldn't give permission to have his eyes blinded.

GC

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My freaking Goddess, you are so fucking dumb.

How do you equate an individual assisting someone else toward harm as opposed to an individual doing harm to himself?

Otherwise, in no way should it be considered okay for one individual to do harm to another.

If I want to cut myself, however, that is another matter.

Please, learn how to reason.

This is a reply to all your post on this thread. I've held my tongue for awhile and was hoping someone like you wouldn't come along and spout nonsense and stupidity, your a dumb little twit who hates Christianity and the proof is that you didn't even bother to post until you read my post. Then you jump in and make illogical statements because of your hatred for me as a Christian, which blinds you to what I said and then when Losty disagreed with you you pushed those feelings on her, you're quite the remarkable little dumb _ _ _. You need to learn to be sensitive to others especially the mentally ill, which by the way I am working with. She was born mentally handy capped and developed schizophrenia at 30. So I know about a person who has the uncontrollable desire to hurt herself or others, though that rarely occurs since my wife and I have worked with her, her psychiatrist has even been reducing her medication, proper help and real love makes a great difference. Everyone who knew her before she came into our lives say they can't believe this is the same person, they are no longer afraid of her and see a loving, generous and caring lady.
As for what you quoted from my post, it in no way means what you have applied to it, that's just your hateful way of trying to get under my skin and it didn't work, what got under my skin is the way you treated Losty. So just leave this conversation, you seem to have nothing intelligent to contribute to this thread, all I see from you is hatefulness.

GC