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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
December 31, 2015 at 2:18 pm
(December 31, 2015 at 1:06 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Well Pops, there's the tiny nagging fact, that the stories in the bible didn't happen. That's how history discredits the bible. What stories? How are they shown to never have happened either before written history, or after? You do understand that wars, complete destruction of places and peoples, and deceit have played huge parts in All of humanity and the actual writing of history right?
Though this was about hell anyway?
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
December 31, 2015 at 3:13 pm
(December 29, 2015 at 5:29 pm)dyresand Wrote: (December 27, 2015 at 11:51 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Not true in any way. Just because man has historically twisted the word of God to conform to their selfish wants doesn't mean the texts, when not taken out of context and manipulated, aren't pure in intent and even unified without subjugation.
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Bible written by man not inspired by any god or supernatural being. If that was the case why doesn't guy prove
he exists instead of need people to have blind faith. Because you know blind faith being a cop out for your god
not existing.
Blind faith is not bad but when in general its a crutch for fools who need something to prop themselves up with.
I have no issue with blind faith i have a issue with it when people start yelling you are going to hell or do something
bad. It's the doctrine of - Deus Absconditus - In the case of unbelievers: God deliberately hides himself from the proud and the ungodly --- the more sin, the less revelation; for believers, there is a different reason. Remember, God is not revealed directly thru the five senses since that would be fraught with subjective interpretations. He is revealed primary thru Scripture and Nature - non-physical and physical (His eternal power is clearly seen...). 13 billion years preparation for mankind so that God can reveal part of His nature which is redemption --- the fallen angels (demons) don't have it, only mankind has it available. However, this redemption couldn't be in violation of God's nature which includes divine justice. Christ satisfied God's justice by taking upon Himself the penalty required by that justice. Christ spent an eternity bearing each person's sins individually (an eternity timeline for each person, or equivalent ... the personages of the Trinity are not confined to our unidirectional cosmos timeline). That's why the Scriptures says 'how can we escape if we neglect so great salvation'. Auld Lang Syne
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
December 31, 2015 at 3:19 pm
(December 31, 2015 at 3:13 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (December 29, 2015 at 5:29 pm)dyresand Wrote: Bible written by man not inspired by any god or supernatural being. If that was the case why doesn't guy prove
he exists instead of need people to have blind faith. Because you know blind faith being a cop out for your god
not existing.
Blind faith is not bad but when in general its a crutch for fools who need something to prop themselves up with.
I have no issue with blind faith i have a issue with it when people start yelling you are going to hell or do something
bad. It's the doctrine of - Deus Absconditus - In the case of unbelievers: God deliberately hides himself from the proud and the ungodly --- the more sin, the less revelation; for believers, there is a different reason. Remember, God is not revealed directly thru the five senses since that would be fraught with subjective interpretations. He is revealed primary thru Scripture and Nature - non-physical and physical (His eternal power is clearly seen...). 13 billion years preparation for mankind so that God can reveal part of His nature which is redemption --- the fallen angels (demons) don't have it, only mankind has it available. However, this redemption couldn't be in violation of God's nature which includes divine justice. Christ satisfied God's justice by taking upon Himself the penalty required by that justice. Christ spent an eternity bearing each person's sins individually (an eternity timeline for each person, or equivalent ... the personages of the Trinity are not confined to our unidirectional cosmos timeline). That's why the Scriptures says 'how can we escape if we neglect so great salvation'. Auld Lang Syne
The greatest cop out for why there is no proof of god.... why is it that there are religions older than christianity?
right because christianity is made up.
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
December 31, 2015 at 3:24 pm
(December 31, 2015 at 3:19 pm)dyresand Wrote: (December 31, 2015 at 3:13 pm)snowtracks Wrote: It's the doctrine of - Deus Absconditus - In the case of unbelievers: God deliberately hides himself from the proud and the ungodly --- the more sin, the less revelation; for believers, there is a different reason. Remember, God is not revealed directly thru the five senses since that would be fraught with subjective interpretations. He is revealed primary thru Scripture and Nature - non-physical and physical (His eternal power is clearly seen...). 13 billion years preparation for mankind so that God can reveal part of His nature which is redemption --- the fallen angels (demons) don't have it, only mankind has it available. However, this redemption couldn't be in violation of God's nature which includes divine justice. Christ satisfied God's justice by taking upon Himself the penalty required by that justice. Christ spent an eternity bearing each person's sins individually (an eternity timeline for each person, or equivalent ... the personages of the Trinity are not confined to our unidirectional cosmos timeline). That's why the Scriptures says 'how can we escape if we neglect so great salvation'. Auld Lang Syne
The greatest cop out for why there is no proof of god.... why is it that there are religions older than christianity?
right because christianity is made up. Because change in times call for differences in understanding. Christianity is made by man, as is Hinduism. Faith in GOD is not. You act as if one refutes the other.
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
December 31, 2015 at 3:37 pm
(December 31, 2015 at 3:24 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: (December 31, 2015 at 3:19 pm)dyresand Wrote: The greatest cop out for why there is no proof of god.... why is it that there are religions older than christianity?
right because christianity is made up. Because change in times call for differences in understanding. Christianity is made by man, as is Hinduism. Faith in GOD is not. You act as if one refutes the other.
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Faith is something you have to take with a grain of salt. No one has evidence that a god exists or doesn't exist. Faith is just the cop out
saying i believe in a god because i believe in a god. You the believer cannot say with a 100% certainty that a god exist because you have no
evidence to support god(s) existence. This is why the burden of proof is a thing. If god existed for that matter the christian one i wouldn't be
christian and i wouldn't worship god.
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
December 31, 2015 at 5:04 pm
(December 31, 2015 at 3:24 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: (December 31, 2015 at 3:19 pm)dyresand Wrote: The greatest cop out for why there is no proof of god.... why is it that there are religions older than christianity?
right because christianity is made up. Because change in times call for differences in understanding. Christianity is made by man, as is Hinduism. Faith in GOD is not. You act as if one refutes the other.
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
December 31, 2015 at 6:19 pm
(December 31, 2015 at 3:13 pm)snowtracks Wrote: ... the personages of the Trinity are not confined to our unidirectional cosmos timeline
Like you actually know this.
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
December 31, 2015 at 6:29 pm
What are you talking about Jor? Of course he knows it. The FSM whispered it into his ear.
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
December 31, 2015 at 8:16 pm
(December 31, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (December 31, 2015 at 3:24 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Because change in times call for differences in understanding. Christianity is made by man, as is Hinduism. Faith in GOD is not. You act as if one refutes the other.
Faith in selfless Unity for Good. Please give us your version of the God character. There are thousands.
http://www.graveyardofthegods.org/deadgo...fgods.html Talk about division.
GOD is self subsisting, benevolent, beneficent, all encompassing, omnipotent, omniscient, long suffering, giving, just, righteous.
I could name off adjectives all day.
Could you be more specific in describing what it is you are wanting me to explain?
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
December 31, 2015 at 10:01 pm
(December 31, 2015 at 8:16 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: (December 31, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Please give us your version of the God character. There are thousands.
http://www.graveyardofthegods.org/deadgo...fgods.html Talk about division.
GOD is self subsisting, benevolent, beneficent, all encompassing, omnipotent, omniscient, long suffering, giving, just, righteous.
I could name off adjectives all day.
Could you be more specific in describing what it is you are wanting me to explain?
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god of the bible is not benevolent.
god of the bible is a malevolent, bigoted, cold hearted, unloving, racist slavery approving, uncaring, unjust, sociopath, moron, sadistic,
and cruel. He is more than that god by definition is evil he is bad if the biblical god exist i wouldn't give two shits about him.
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