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RE: I'm Outta Here!
December 11, 2008 at 11:24 am
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(December 11, 2008 at 11:06 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Yeah but I'd rather say something like "That's fucking stupid!" than "You fucking idiot!".
Best of both worlds then because I'm not even attacking them but I still get to attack their argument and swear. But yes I'd only even do that if I really felt like it.
My favourite swearword vs theists really is generally "bullshit"
As a kid I was raised with the idea that there are no obscene words. Words are just words. I always sort of detested the notion that intellectual phonies were dictating to me that certain words were beneath them. Excrement and shit are the same. I know there are times in which one is more appropriate over the other, but they are ultimately the same.
When I first started to study the Bible I tried to censor my language but quickly realized that that too, was phony Xian morality. The Bible uses language pretty much the same as I always have.
Dungy idols means idols of shit. Cake baked in the excrement of man. Shit. The Jews and early Christians had a play on words which referred to Satan as the lord of shit.
On the one hand there are always people who think that one must refstrain oneself, that it is condusive to civil discourse, and I think that it is important to at least try and be respectful of the rules and the small society or community of a board, but on the other hand one of the reasons I prefer discussions with atheists over Xians is that there isn't as much a restriction on how one expresses oneself.
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RE: I'm Outta Here!
December 11, 2008 at 11:30 am
I like swearing. If everyone didn't mind me swearing I'd swear all the time. Then I'd take a bit of a break when it lost its magic then I'd start again I'd just rather have proper arguments without having to get into a retarded one because of "swearing".
Its just a shame that there are so many people that object.
But if I swore all the time it would always be at the argument and not the person. Preferably. Its just a waste of time and ruins the conversation if you swear at the person rather than what the person is saying imo.
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RE: I'm Outta Here!
December 11, 2008 at 11:32 am
Words are very powerful. Words can hurt more than a blow. For instance if you were overweight say, and someone called you a fat fucker, or you fat fucking idiot, I'm sure you'd not be too pleased...well I wouldn't any way.
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RE: I'm Outta Here!
December 11, 2008 at 11:40 am
Yes. Thats not same as for instance, trying to make someone come to terms with their self. Its generally, at least for now, not a good idea for people to attack other people with their words IMO. Its far better to address the arguments that people make and the actions that they take.
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RE: I'm Outta Here!
December 11, 2008 at 11:52 am
(December 11, 2008 at 11:32 am)CoxRox Wrote: Words are very powerful. Words can hurt more than a blow. For instance if you were overweight say, and someone called you a fat fucker, or you fat fucking idiot, I'm sure you'd not be too pleased...well I wouldn't any way.
Good point, and someone who is a great deal more civil than myself, like you CoxRox, are far less likely to be attacked on a sort of personal level.
Everyone has their own way of doing things. I respect your and EvF's very valid thoughts. I have been thinking that I should tone my own vulgarity down a bit. It does get old, like EvF said. I will try to do that in the future.
I may let loose once in a while, but try to be somewhat more. Civil.
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RE: I'm Outta Here!
December 11, 2008 at 8:18 pm
(December 11, 2008 at 11:52 am)Daystar Wrote: (December 11, 2008 at 11:32 am)CoxRox Wrote: Words are very powerful. Words can hurt more than a blow. For instance if you were overweight say, and someone called you a fat fucker, or you fat fucking idiot, I'm sure you'd not be too pleased...well I wouldn't any way.
Good point, and someone who is a great deal more civil than myself, like you CoxRox, are far less likely to be attacked on a sort of personal level.
Everyone has their own way of doing things. I respect your and EvF's very valid thoughts. I have been thinking that I should tone my own vulgarity down a bit. It does get old, like EvF said. I will try to do that in the future.
I may let loose once in a while, but try to be somewhat more. Civil.
Where to start? well fuck me! Glad Kyu hasn't been banished but hey you lot, I was in deep shit last weekend for a lesser crime! being blunt!
Perspective???
A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
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RE: I'm Outta Here!
December 11, 2008 at 8:28 pm
You didn't get a warning did you? I remember you being warned but you didn't actually get a WARNING as in on your profile. Right? You were like warned you might get a proper warning weren't you?
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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RE: I'm Outta Here!
December 11, 2008 at 8:30 pm
(December 11, 2008 at 8:28 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: You didn't get a warning did you? I remember you being warned but you didn't actually get a WARNING as in on your profile. Right? You were like warned you might get a proper warning weren't you?
Correct me if I'm wrong. Don't know. Does it matter... if you're not uber pedantic? You surely appreciate what I am saying??
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December 11, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Yeah. Oh, I guess I thought you were suggesting your warning was like the same for a lesser crime. When despite the fact Kyu's was very mild he did actually get a proper warning. Although it wasn't a very serious one.
I don't think either of you really did anything serious. Perhaps its just best to stick to attacking the argument not the person
You basically did the same thing the only difference is Kyu sweared.
I don't give a fuck about swearing (as you can see) but some people do. And its not as bad if its not directed at people
And yes maybe I am uber pedantic lol
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RE: I'm Outta Here!
December 11, 2008 at 8:46 pm
(December 11, 2008 at 8:38 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Yeah. Oh, I guess I thought you were suggesting your warning was like the same for a lesser crime. When despite the fact Kyu's was very mild he did actually get a proper warning. Although it wasn't a very serious one.
I don't think either of you really did anything serious. Perhaps its just best to stick to attacking the argument not the person
You basically did the same thing the only difference is Kyu sweared.
I don't give a fuck about swearing (as you can see) but some people do. And its not as bad if its not directed at people
And yes maybe I am uber pedantic lol phew, I don't think we did anything serious either. In fact, were I to be booted off an atheist forum it would be like an asbo...a badge of honour in my book!
I swear myself, too often probably, but on this stage I limit it to what I believe is appropriate.
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