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The illusion of justice, sin and free will
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 (October 15, 2015 at 5:55 pm)Evie Wrote: Lol lmfao dyresand... He knows that the Christians are not going to have anything of use to say anyway. But to get us a bit back on track: "A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence." — David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
 (October 15, 2015 at 6:54 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:(October 15, 2015 at 5:55 pm)Evie Wrote: Lol lmfao dyresand... Pretty much after the news yesterday no christian really wants to speak out about anything even on the forums.
Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today.
Code: <iframe width="100%" height="450" scrolling="no" frameborder="no" src="https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/255506953&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&visual=true"></iframe> (October 15, 2015 at 3:57 pm)dyresand Wrote: For starters if you accept the notion of god being all powerful omniscient and all knowing there is no free will and that being said lol you don't believe in free will (October 15, 2015 at 10:01 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote:(October 15, 2015 at 3:57 pm)dyresand Wrote: For starters if you accept the notion of god being all powerful omniscient and all knowing there is no free will and that being said I knew you were going to say that. "A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence." — David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
 (October 15, 2015 at 8:12 pm)dyresand Wrote: Pretty much after the news yesterday no christian really wants to speak out about anything even on the forums. News? Inform the TV-less, please?
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love. (October 15, 2015 at 10:33 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:(October 15, 2015 at 8:12 pm)dyresand Wrote: Pretty much after the news yesterday no christian really wants to speak out about anything even on the forums. We were talking about it yesterday on the forums crazy cult parents punishes their children one dies the other in the hospital. a update on that they are saying the mother was too meek and couldn't speak out to stop them from harming both of the kids.
Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today.
Code: <iframe width="100%" height="450" scrolling="no" frameborder="no" src="https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/255506953&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&visual=true"></iframe>(October 15, 2015 at 10:35 pm)dyresand Wrote:(October 15, 2015 at 10:33 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: News? Inform the TV-less, please? Ah yes, the "beat the sin away" murderers. Only committed by False Scotsmen, of course.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love. (October 15, 2015 at 10:36 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:(October 15, 2015 at 10:35 pm)dyresand Wrote: We were talking about it yesterday on the forums crazy cult parents punishes their children one dies the other in the hospital. I think you mean True ChristiansTM: Proverbs 13:24King James Version (KJV) 24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes. "A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence." — David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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