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What are the evidence for no god?
#21
RE: What are the evidence for no god?
(October 16, 2015 at 4:40 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote:
(October 16, 2015 at 4:37 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Oh look!

Another theist that doesn't understand the atheist position, or who has the burden of proof.


Some day I will be pleasantly surprised when a theists shows up here and actually understands basic logic and critical thinking.

I'm aware of two types of atheists: one that says there is a lack of evidence for god and another who says there is no god. I'm curious to know what evidence the latter presents.



It is not up to us to define the god you believe exists, then disprove it.

It is up to you to define your god, present evidence for it.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#22
RE: What are the evidence for no god?
(October 16, 2015 at 4:24 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: What are the evidence for no god?

I'll turn that around on you. What are the evidence for no no god?
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#23
RE: What are the evidence for no god?
No god no cry
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#24
RE: What are the evidence for no god?
(October 16, 2015 at 4:24 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: What are the evidence for no god?

Simple, first and foremost, infinite regression.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

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#25
RE: What are the evidence for no god?
(October 16, 2015 at 4:24 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: What are the evidence for no god?

Contrary to what you seem to think, it isn't up to us to provide evidence for something we do not believe exists. Suppose, for instance, you don't believe in Australia. Aside from making you a dangerous nutcase of the first water, no one is going to come up to you and say, 'Give me evidence that Australia doesn't exist'. You, however, would be perfectly justified in asking people, 'What evidence do you have that there is such a place as Australia?' That's how it works. YOU are the one making a positive claim. Therefore, the onus is on YOU to provide evidence (or at least a compelling argument) that God exists.

That being said, there is some evidentiary basis for the non-existence of God, but it is all of a negative sort.

-There is nothing attributed to God that is not better and more completely explained by non-God explanations. If the turbulence experience by a jet liner is explicable as air masses, why bother with the explanation that God is shaking the plan? A concept that explains nothing is useless. If God is useless, God may as well not exist.

-There is no linguistic construct to which we can point as agree 'That is God.' In other words, what a Jew or Christian means by 'God' isn't the same as what a Hindu, Wiccan or Deist means. All of these people, other the other hand, can agree on what a tree, a snow bank, or a knife are.

-Definitions of God are incoherent (this may look like the same as the point above, but it isn't, really). No one gets confused by or has trouble defining the English word 'cat'. No one says, 'Well, that's YOUR definition of "cat", but I define "cat" differently.' If a definition cannot describe the thing in question, it is certainly possible that the definition is wrong. What is more likely, though, is that when - after several millennia of trying - there is no workable, coherent definition of God, we're trying to describe something for which we have no referent, because it doesn't exist (test: Define qlewkthj in a way I can understand.)

There's more, but I'm bored.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#26
RE: What are the evidence for no god?
(October 16, 2015 at 4:24 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: What are the evidence for no god?

The entire scientific field of physics and the modern world which it built.

The lack of a definition of what a god is. You first need to define it before you can ask for evidence.
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#27
RE: What are the evidence for no god?
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#28
RE: What are the evidence for no god?
Why come you got no tattoo?
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#29
RE: What are the evidence for no god?
(October 16, 2015 at 4:40 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: I'm aware of two types of atheists: one that says there is a lack of evidence for god and another who says there is no god. I'm curious to know what evidence the latter presents.

Me too.  By the way .. what is a god, exactly?
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#30
RE: What are the evidence for no god?
(October 16, 2015 at 4:36 pm)Exian Wrote: What fucking church are you all crawling out from?

First Thick as a Brick Baptist?

Our Lady of Perpetual Horniness?

The Watchtower Apocalyptic Testsment (Twat)?
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