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Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
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RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 20, 2015 at 3:31 pm
(October 20, 2015 at 3:10 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: in any case the source you guessed at "revealing the jewish messiah" was correct so just go to the link you yourself posted ....
Sorry, sweetheart, it doesn't work that way.
Quote:and YOU are getting information from an outside source ( the Bible )
Er, the topic is what the Bible says about Jesus' divinity. We obviously need to look at the Bible. You're really reeking of desperation now.
Quote:so why shouldnt i?
Go right ahead, but make the argument your own. If you just say here's a link which proves my point, go read it yourself, people will stop playing with you.
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RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 20, 2015 at 3:33 pm
(October 20, 2015 at 3:16 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:
(October 20, 2015 at 3:05 pm)alpha male Wrote: Jesus was indeed a prophet. How does that disqualify him from divinity?

how does it qualify him? the most he claimed to be was a prophet and that like other people God was his Father

No, the most he claimed was to be one with the father. No other people claimed that.
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#103
RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 20, 2015 at 3:45 pm
(October 20, 2015 at 3:33 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(October 20, 2015 at 3:16 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: how does it qualify him? the most he claimed to be was a prophet and that like other people God was his Father

No, the most he claimed was to be one with the father. No other people claimed that.

a lot of christians claim that they have a connection with God
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today   FSM Grin   Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one  - John Lennon

The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also  - Mark Twain
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#104
RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 20, 2015 at 3:46 pm
(October 20, 2015 at 3:33 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(October 20, 2015 at 3:16 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: how does it qualify him? the most he claimed to be was a prophet and that like other people God was his Father

No, the most he claimed was to be one with the father. No other people claimed that.

And we don't know if he claimed that. We only have the words attributed to him years later.
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RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 20, 2015 at 3:49 pm
Did anyone in the Bible other than Jesus claim to be one with the father, or say since you've seen me, you've seen the father?
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RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 20, 2015 at 3:50 pm
(October 20, 2015 at 3:46 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:
(October 20, 2015 at 3:33 pm)alpha male Wrote: No, the most he claimed was to be one with the father. No other people claimed that.

And we don't know if he claimed that. We only have the words attributed to him years later.

Look at the thread title, moron.
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RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 20, 2015 at 3:52 pm
the topic is what the Bible says about Jesus' divinity. We obviously need to look at the Bible.

yes and discussing it you asked me to show you (outside source) where the jews did not think the messiah would be God
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today   FSM Grin   Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one  - John Lennon

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RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 20, 2015 at 3:53 pm
It's not difficult to claim to be God. Anyone can do it. I am God. See, easy?

What's difficult is meaningfully sustaining it.
We are not made happy by what we acquire but by what we appreciate.
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RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 20, 2015 at 3:53 pm
(October 20, 2015 at 3:52 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: the topic is what the Bible says about Jesus' divinity. We obviously need to look at the Bible.

yes and discussing it you asked me to show you (outside source) where the jews did not think the messiah would be God

Yep, and if you like, you can quote in a post the specific points from that page which you think are applicable.
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RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 20, 2015 at 3:54 pm
(October 20, 2015 at 3:50 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(October 20, 2015 at 3:46 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: And we don't know if he claimed that. We only have the words attributed to him years later.

Look at the thread title, moron.

Yes, moron, I'm aware of the thread title. I'm just more concerned with what can be established according to sound historical principles than I am with the quote-the-Bible game.
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