RE: Creation Muesum
October 23, 2015 at 2:50 pm
(This post was last modified: October 23, 2015 at 2:50 pm by Huggy Bear.)
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Creation Muesum
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(October 23, 2015 at 2:50 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(October 23, 2015 at 2:40 pm)Esquilax Wrote: He did leave it at "I don't know," genius. He then proceeded to point out how.....*edit mine* It was a separate point of discussion, you pedant...
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Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects! (October 23, 2015 at 11:30 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(October 23, 2015 at 10:26 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Which is exactly what "Christian Science" is. Any "reputable" (and by reputable I mean accepted by Christians) Christian source has a statement of faith like the one from AiG I posted above. They literally state that any evidence which contradicts scripture must, by definition, be wrongly interpreted. Science can never start with an unassailable position. That is the antithesis of science. It is a generalization based on evidence. That I provided above. "Reputable" Christian sources all use the statement of faith. AiG Wrote:By definition, no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the scriptural record. Of primary importance is the fact that evidence is always subject to interpretation by fallible people who do not possess all information. If you could, provide a "naturalist" source, claiming to be performing science, that states that if they discover evidence that contradicts their claim, they will disregard it. I'll wait... (October 23, 2015 at 11:30 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(October 23, 2015 at 10:26 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: If they start with the conclusion, then it is not scientific. By definition. If you start with the conclusion that the world must be 6,000 years old, and then go and search for corroborating evidence, even if said evidence is collected in a "scientific" manner, you are still only collecting evidence in a scientific manner. The interpretation of the evidence with the conclusion already in mind is not science. It is arm waving at its basest. No. You are not doing science in a lecture hall. If you do testable, repeatable experiments in the lab that produce results that corroborate your hypothesis, you are but a fly in the wall of the mountains of other experiments that have done the same results. Please, if you would, link to a creationist experiment. What have the creationists tested that provides a prediction of future phenomena, as a scientific theory would? I'll wait... (October 23, 2015 at 11:30 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(October 23, 2015 at 10:26 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Empirical observation is the only method for arriving at a realistic conclusion. Getting your "truth" from a 2000 year old book and co-opting modern knowledge into that, I'm sorry, is not a reconciliation of truth. It's wish granting, and I'll not be a part of it. And now you're mincing words. One does not need to witness a gene mutating in order to witness the evidence that it leaves. I don't need to be there to see a Mt. Vesuvius erupting, but by dating the igneous strata and exhuming the mummified remains of the Pompeians, we can tell a story. Be careful in tugging at this string, because it will unravel your sweater.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
PM me your email address to join the Slack chat! I'll give you a taco(or five) if you join! --->There's an app and everything!<--- (October 23, 2015 at 3:04 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Be careful in tugging at this string, because it will unravel your sweater. Steel Curtain gonna pull this thread as you walk away; you'll soon be naked, lyin' on the floor. You come undone, sucka'!
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Don't worry, my friend. If this be the end, then so shall it be. (October 23, 2015 at 3:07 pm)TRJF Wrote:(October 23, 2015 at 3:04 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Be careful in tugging at this string, because it will unravel your sweater. I was singing the sweater song as I typed! Great minds...
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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If you're going, be sure to go on Christmas Eve, because that day it's free for everyone. Otherwise it's fucking $29.95 for adults.
I didn't realize the origins of the universe
would be decided by a creative writing contest. I'm completely open minded, that means I will consider anything that has supporting evidence. By making unwarranted assumptions, you're shutting out vast areas of consideration; becoming closed minded by loading the question. By holding onto a "conclusion" based on no evidence and demanding people come up with better ones is to have entirely closed your mind. Feel free to send me a private message.
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Okay, I totally want to go there.
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Isn't Christmas Eve the WORST time to have that open? All the Christers will be home with their babies and the holiday celebrations (or taking their kids to the movies so they don't go nuts). The only people who have free time to jaunt down on vacation to the Creation Museum would be atheists and other heathens.
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love. |
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