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~~Edwardo Piet~~ · October 30, 2015 at 11:37 am

How powerful is wishful thinking and merely wanting and hoping something to be true, when it comes to affecting ones beliefs?

And does it really have an affect on beliefs at all?

I personally think wanting something to be true has no effect on beliefs at all, you're either convinced or you're not....

...But I do think wishful thinking is a very powerful (and bad) force, because it actually makes us in denial and self-deluded into thinking we believe something when we actually don't.... we just want to believe it so much and can't face the fact that we don't really believe it.

I think a lot of psychosis is like this too. I've been psychotic in the past and I wonder if I actually believed any of the delusions of granduer I had even when I was delusional, or I was just unable to cope and in an escapist way I was self-decieved and believed that I believed all these crazy "positiive" things and went to my "happy place" in my head while ignoring reality.

Hmmm? · October 30, 2015 at 11:49 am

I'm a giant fan of wishful thinking, without it Emmet would have never been able to return the piece of resistance to the kragle and save the world!!

YipHipHooray For Emmet! YipHipHooray for wishful thinking!

~~Edwardo Piet~~ · October 30, 2015 at 11:58 am

That's more ambition, quixoticness, hopeful and aspirational thinking than wishful thinking xD

See my sig Big Grin

P.S. Great movie. One of the better family films for all ages I've seen lately. So many of the newer ones suck compared to the classics lately in my experience, but this is one of the better ones - and maybe I'm just turning into an old grandpa already Big Grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rOFw_3t8t0

Losty · October 30, 2015 at 12:17 pm

Wishful thinking can be good or bad, but mostly I think it's neutral.

~~Edwardo Piet~~ · (This post was last modified: October 30, 2015 at 12:58 pm by Edwardo Piet.)

Yeah I guess most of it can be pretty harmless Smile

And maybe some people need it to degree.

Not wanting to condescend but I also wouldn't wish a life of misery on anyone who really does need it if they really do!

Hmmm? · October 30, 2015 at 1:34 pm

(October 30, 2015 at 11:58 am)Evie Wrote: That's more ambition, quixoticness, hopeful and aspirational thinking than wishful thinking xD

See my sig

P.S. Great movie. One of the better family films for all ages I've seen lately. So many of the newer ones suck compared to the classics lately in my experience, but this is one of the better ones - and maybe I'm just turning into an old grandpa already

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rOFw_3t8t0

Yeah, lego movie is my #1 fav, replacing goonies which was my #1 fav from the time of it's debut in 1985 :•)

Your video made me lol... We (the family) had dinner out on the deck a couple weeks ago, all but the youngest stayed out there. The youngest comes out on the deck like 2 hours later and asks, "What are you guys doing?" It was dark by then and each one of our faces was lit up by either a tablet or a phone. So I responded, "We're spending quality family time together, what are you doing?" (My youngest and I just watched your video and we lol'd together) lol

~~Edwardo Piet~~ · October 30, 2015 at 1:39 pm

Hm? Wrote:(My youngest and I just watched your video and we lol'd together) lol

Awesome... I'm glad to be a happifying addtion to your life experienceness xD

c172 · October 30, 2015 at 1:47 pm

"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan

The above quote helped me let go when I fellout with someone important. To me. And I still think it rings true in many situations. But if we don't ever wish for anything to be true, how can we ever improve our own lives? We stagnate.

~~Edwardo Piet~~ · October 30, 2015 at 1:50 pm

I agree but I think wishful thinking is more than just wishing as in hoping.

c172 · October 30, 2015 at 2:12 pm

Ah yes. I guess hoping in combination with actually thinking it might happen.

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Poll: Is wishful thinking a powerful force that affects belief strongly? Is it powerful but doesn't affect actual real belief and is actually a form of self-delusion? This poll is closed.
Wishful thinking powerfully affects actual beliefs.	22.22%	2	22.22%
Wishful thinking is a myth and doesn't affect beliefs at all, it isn't even a form of self-delusion or self-deception.	0%	0	0%
Wishful thinking doesn't effect actual belief but makes you think it does, you go into self-denial when you succumb to it and it's a form of self-delusion and deceiving yourself.	11.11%	1	11.11%
Turtle thinks too much xD But I like these threads ^__^	44.44%	4	44.44%
You're posting too many polls and threads today! Stop it now you uninteresting annoying person!	22.22%	2	22.22%
Total		9 vote(s)	100%

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