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RE: Witness Evidence
November 15, 2015 at 10:07 pm
(November 15, 2015 at 9:35 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: (November 15, 2015 at 9:27 pm)Rhythm Wrote: What details, details are factual...not an issue of "eyewitness testimony"...and that's what we keep telling you. If someone says you shot them, you say you didn't, and there is no evidence..I'll tell them to go fuck themselves. So will you.
So given the best conditions for multiple witness testimony, and no other evidence other than the bullet in your leg... But no other physical evidence. You would say that we cannot really know what happened..... That you could not really know what happened? I find this ridiculous!
All we would know by that is that you got shot, not who shot you! That's not ridiculous, that's reasonable
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RE: Witness Evidence
November 15, 2015 at 10:08 pm
(November 15, 2015 at 10:07 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: So then none of you would press charges against me, unless there was physical evidence to show it was me, who shot you? With what you are describing any experience, even scientific endeavors seem to be questionable at best.
Scientific endeavors without physical evidence, you mean? Such as?
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RE: Witness Evidence
November 15, 2015 at 10:15 pm
(November 15, 2015 at 10:08 pm)Irrational Wrote: (November 15, 2015 at 10:07 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: So then none of you would press charges against me, unless there was physical evidence to show it was me, who shot you? With what you are describing any experience, even scientific endeavors seem to be questionable at best.
Scientific endeavors without physical evidence, you mean? Such as?
As soon as you quit observing it... It's a memory....one that according to some, maybe highly flawed memory. What is being proposed here, crumbles a good many arguments on this board. Ohh... You think this is possible.... Perhaps your memory was influenced by something you read and its now just a false memory? You would not even realize you are mistaken?
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RE: Witness Evidence
November 15, 2015 at 10:17 pm
(November 15, 2015 at 10:15 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: (November 15, 2015 at 10:08 pm)Irrational Wrote: Scientific endeavors without physical evidence, you mean? Such as?
As soon as you quit observing it... It's a memory....one that according to some, maybe highly flawed memory. What is being proposed here, crumbles a good many arguments on this board. Ohh... You think this is possible.... Perhaps your memory was influenced by something you read and its now just a false memory? You would not even realize you are mistaken?
It's not a personal memory, and I can always confirm prior observations as well. Plus, these observations tend to be recorded in writing or on tape or what have you, so it's not just in the head.
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RE: Witness Evidence
November 15, 2015 at 10:18 pm
History, including your history is irrelevant unless it leaves physical evidence?
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RE: Witness Evidence
November 15, 2015 at 10:21 pm
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(November 15, 2015 at 10:15 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: As soon as you quit observing it... It's a memory....one that according to some, maybe highly flawed memory.
Hey, it might be, that's -exactly- why they have to show their work, and why their results must be reproduced independantly. Next.
History, isn't science, though they're trying to use as much science as possible. Nevertheless, if we have a "historical record" that says a city named Atlantis sunk into the sea...........we try to find a submerged city that fits the timeframe.
...........................Next.
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RE: Witness Evidence
November 15, 2015 at 10:25 pm
And then it becomes a memory to someone else....who can testify to it. Do you believe things based on the observation and testimony of others? Are you sure that they are not mistaken?
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RE: Witness Evidence
November 15, 2015 at 10:26 pm
Is this the terminus of your brilliant argument against common descent?
Next.
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RE: Witness Evidence
November 15, 2015 at 10:27 pm
(November 15, 2015 at 10:18 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: History, including your history is irrelevant unless it leaves physical evidence?
Not irrelevant, unreliable. But anyway in the real world, there should be some physical evidence supporting what we believe about ourselves and the world.
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RE: Witness Evidence
November 15, 2015 at 10:30 pm
(November 15, 2015 at 10:27 pm)Irrational Wrote: (November 15, 2015 at 10:18 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: History, including your history is irrelevant unless it leaves physical evidence?
Not irrelevant, unreliable. But anyway in the real world, there should be some physical evidence supporting what we believe about ourselves and the world. Do you believe you are a relatively honest or good person? Can you please supply testable, repeatable physical evidence please?
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