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Again, 'Murrica. How Many More
#91
RE: Again, 'Murrica. How Many More
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#92
RE: Again, 'Murrica. How Many More
So and again that still does not change that MOST mass shooters are born here. Nor does it change most gun deaths are in the home/neighborhood and the victim is murdered by someone they are familiar with. The PP shooter was not Muslim. The Church shooter was not Muslim.

Again, the makers and industry love this distraction, it avoids the real issue of ease of access to the guns.
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#93
RE: Again, 'Murrica. How Many More
(December 2, 2015 at 11:14 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(December 2, 2015 at 10:56 pm)The_Empress Wrote: You're taking it out on the wrong people, Brian. You're going to have a hard time getting people to listen to you if you don't cut out the histrionics.


Hardly, I am not the only one who feels this way, so if others don't like my word choice, they will still go to other venues and or to advocacy groups on their own without me. I doubt anyone whom sides with me that might disagree with my word choice is in danger of becoming a tea party gun worshiper. 

It's not your word choice; it's that the people you're taking your frustrations out on agree with you for the most part. You're preaching to, and insulting, the choir.

Quote:Again, this is as bad as when people get angry at the people getting angry at the right people. Like when you say fuck homophobes and someone is more worried about offending the bigots.

You can rightly fuck off with that strawman. I'm not angry at your views; once again, you're not going to get anywhere by preaching to, and insulting, the choir.

Quote:Fine, nobody has to listen to me, but if you want to do something, don't complain about me, if you think you can do better then do it. The goal is still the same, get more voices on the subject.

The amount of gun death should offend you, not me saying "I want this shit to stop".

I'm not offended by your desire for it to stop. I want it to stop as much as, or maybe even more than, you do, but that's not the only thing you've said. You've insulted and offended people by using strawmen and arguments that don't even apply to them.

Why don't you try actually reading what people write instead of immediately going on the offensive as if everyone is automatically against your arguments? It's exhausting!
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#94
RE: Again, 'Murrica. How Many More
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#95
RE: Again, 'Murrica. How Many More
(December 2, 2015 at 11:35 pm)Brian37 Wrote: So and again that still does not change that MOST mass shooters are born here. Nor does it change most gun deaths are in the home/neighborhood and the victim is murdered by someone they are familiar with. The PP shooter was not Muslim. The Church shooter was not Muslim.

Again, the makers and industry love this distraction, it avoids the real issue of ease of access to the guns.

Brian, the statistics clearly show that the solution to guns is more guns and bigger guns.
If everyone there had had a gun he wouldn't of stood a chance. What aren't you getting about this?
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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(December 2, 2015 at 11:50 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote:
(December 2, 2015 at 11:35 pm)Brian37 Wrote: So and again that still does not change that MOST mass shooters are born here. Nor does it change most gun deaths are in the home/neighborhood and the victim is murdered by someone they are familiar with. The PP shooter was not Muslim. The Church shooter was not Muslim.

Again, the makers and industry love this distraction, it avoids the real issue of ease of access to the guns.

Brian, the statistics clearly show that the solution to guns is more guns and bigger guns.
If everyone there had had a gun he wouldn't of stood a chance. What aren't you getting about this?

No, if more guns were a solution we would NOT have an increase in these events year after year. The AZ tea party shooters murdered TWO armed cops, then went into a Wal Mart and murdered an armed civilian. The Oregon shooting had people carrying on campus. On of them was military, that guy said he wanted to do something but his training kept him from it.

Is that really what you want? Everyone armed? That is a police state, a paranoid state, not a free society.
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"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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Quote: I agree, but unfortunately many don't see it that way.
That's why the gun nuts can not be allowed to call the shots.   (pun intended.)


Quote:I'm against gun control laws because it's asinine to deprive a nation's entire population of rights just because a few people get shot.

There is no state in the union where you are allowed to drive drunk.  Why is that less an infringement of your fucking rights than saying you can not have an automatic or semi-automatic weapon?
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It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley, but to believe or not believe in God is not important at all. - Denis Diderot

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