Again, 'Murrica. How Many More

[Reforged]

Brian, the statistics clearly show that the solution to guns is more guns and bigger guns.
If everyone there had had a gun he wouldn't of stood a chance. What aren't you getting about this?

No, if more guns were a solution we would NOT have an increase in these events year after year. The AZ tea party shooters murdered TWO armed cops, then went into a Wal Mart and murdered an armed civilian. The Oregon shooting had people carrying on campus. On of them was military, that guy said he wanted to do something but his training kept him from it.

Is that really what you want? Everyone armed? That is a police state, a paranoid state, not a free society.

Right but come on. You have to admit those cops looked shifty. What if they had been terrorists? Plus it means they struck a blow against the police state, what are you complaining about?
For fuck sake Brian; think. The only way to have a country of the people for the people is to empower... wait for it... the people.
Give everyone assault rifles.

[Thumpalumpacus]

No, if more guns were a solution we would NOT have an increase in these events year after year. The AZ tea party shooters murdered TWO armed cops, then went into a Wal Mart and murdered an armed civilian. The Oregon shooting had people carrying on campus. On of them was military, that guy said he wanted to do something but his training kept him from it.

Is that really what you want? Everyone armed? That is a police state, a paranoid state, not a free society.

Right but come on. You have to admit those cops looked shifty. What if they had been terrorists? Plus it means they struck a blow against the police state, what are you complaining about?
For fuck sake Brian; think. The only way to have a country of the people for the people is to empower... wait for it... the people.
Give everyone assault rifles.

I want mah Flak 41!

[Minimalist]

Thank goodness the guy was a muslim.  Now the republicunts can go back to bashing refugees without having to address those shitty xtian anti-abortion terrorists.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Will you stop selling fear yourself!

I'm not 'selling' anything, mate. The gun culture in the US fosters fear, it's nothing to do with me.

This is the shit that sells more guns.

Right - I'm the reason USians are buying guns. I'm very, very sorry about that.

Making less guns, banning big clips and spray weapons is no different than not allowing monster trucks on public highways.

Right. These people in California were killed by monster trucks.

Now I defy you to show me where in that statement I said "ban all guns".......

Sorry, I can't. But innit lucky for me that I never accused you of advocating banning all guns? I appreciate the candor of your responses, but it might be more helpful if you respond to things I've said rather than things I haven't said.

but we do have a flooded market and you are right we do have a huge boner for guns, THAT is the worst part, far too many people worship guns as if the gun itself was a human with rights.

I'm delighted that you agree with me.

Because, the "far left" is a hoax.

Wait - there's no far left in the US?

There are not enough people that literally want to remove all guns, nobody thinks that is practical even if I wanted to.

Again, you're replying to something I never said. But to be fair, maybe I should have said 'some people will want to eradicate all firearms, which will never work and this statement doesn't include Brian37 who may think my comments are directed specifically at him, which they were not.'

Saying "far left" is as nutty as Trump thinking he can deport 11 million people.

I'm sure you grasp the esoteric concept that political views occupy a spectrum.

Again NOBODY is saying take away all guns

In a quick web search, I found several American newspapers and organizations that did exactly that. Do your legwork before making nutty comments.

THAT is my point and falling for the right's code language gives them that fear to hide behind.

Try reading my post again. I wasn't advocating anything, and I wasn't using 'code language'.

We can make less, make them harder to get so that the wrong people don't get them and yes, you don't need a spray weapon or huge clips. AGAIN nothing in that last sentence says " no guns at all".

AGAIN, this isn't about you, but I'm impressed by your sense of self-importance.

If Boru is on the sane side great, so don't play into the gun worshipers language of fear.

Thank you for holding out the possibility that I might be sane. Means a lot.

Boru

[robvalue]

What the hell, more shootings? Damn it

It's so sickening.

[StuW]

And for those of you who suspected religion to have a hand in this massacre, come up and take your prize!

DJ Lewis @umpire43 Farooq Saeed worked at the Center.He is an Islamic refugee
from Pakistan. There was an Argument over Christmas
before the attack. 3:26 PM - 2 Dec 2015

Yeah, I’d have to agree. Waaay upthread there were a couple freepers who heard the arabic female description on the scanner too.
I try really hard not to jump to conclusions or make assumptions with big events and stories. I just pay attention and wait.

77 posted on 12/2/2015, 9:26:00 PM by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)

Killing for the unreal is unreal.

Don't know where he got his information on Farooq.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34991855

Who carried out the shootings?

Police have identified Syed Rizwan Farook, a 28-year-old US-born male, and Tashfeen Malik, a 27-year-old woman, as the two dead suspects. Relatives have said the two were married.

My bold.

[DespondentFishdeathMasochismo]

It happened again and the right wing wants to do nothing about it 

[Brian37]

Thank goodness the guy was a muslim.  Now the republicunts can go back to bashing refugees without having to address those shitty xtian anti-abortion terrorists.

They don't want immigrants or refugees with guns, they would argue the same with Mexicans, but the guy of this couple was a legal citizen and passed a background check to get some of the weapons they had on them.

This isn't about illegals or refugees or Mexicans or Muslims. This is about one industry that uses a profit protecting lobby to sell fear to maintain a flooded market.

[KUSA]

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There is no state in the union where you are allowed to drive drunk. 

There is no state in the union that you are allowed to go out in the street and shoot up a bunch of people.

Why is that less an infringement of your fucking rights than saying you can not have an automatic or semi-automatic weapon?

That's really a non sequitur. But since you went there, we can have beer or 100 proof whiskey. Either one you drink does not permit you to drive drunk.

[DespondentFishdeathMasochismo]

I would like to see all guns banned outright in the entire country.