US Muslims struggle with condemnation

[God of Mr. Hanky]

The Jesus character is a raving homicidal maniac.  He likes to roast people.

John 15:6 (TLB) = "If anyone separates from me, he is thrown away like a useless branch, withers, and is gathered into a pile with all the others and burned."

But there's a difference between Jesus saying "They will be burned." In a metaphor talking about what happens in the afterlife, and the instructions from Muhammad on how to crucify people, when to beat your wife, when to go to war and so on.

This sounds a bit like what I've read on the Jewish Talmud, which an enormous collection of instruction to micromanage life's every little detail. Christianity doesn't have anything quite comparable, which has given it more flexibility to go with cultural changes (Xtians didn't ban pork because most of them were gentiles, Jesus didn't say they should, and Gentiles knew it is tasty when cooked right). The significance of this difference is demonstrated by Judaism, with dire implications for Islamic reform - Judaism reformed only when Jews began to ignore the Talmud, which had bound them together through centuries of oppression with its own suffocating choke-hold. It never was the origin of Judaism anyway (not even the Torah really had that distinction), while the Koran and the asshat prophet who was credited with writing it is the one thing which defines Islam. Given the nature of this book, and its status at the center of the religion which it defines, Islamic reform is unlikely at best.

[Catholic_Lady]

https://newrepublic.com/article/125069/s...ign=202704

You don't want to quote the Newrepublic if your goal is to be taken seriously. Might be true, might be pure invention. If you got some serious source, bring it on.

Qutoing the newrepublic on something is like quoting Mein Kampf for an opinion on jews.

Here's a google search on the developing story: 

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=ch...udi+arabia

I don't think we're doing ourselves any favors by denying that evil like this is still happening in developed countries.

[Minimalist]

I don't think there is any doubt that the Saudi's are scum, dear.



Too bad Bush never got it.

[vorlon13]

Jesus, didn't need to see that.