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US Muslims struggle with condemnation
December 6, 2015 at 9:53 pm
What the HELL! Muslims own religious community (at least part) does not think they need to/should condemn terrorist acts committed in the name of Islam? That condemnation will give Muslims/Islam a bad reputation?
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ea4601441...-extremism
Quote: "A younger generation is especially impatient with the condemnations of Islamic extremism from Muslim groups after every attack. They argue that the statements merely reinforce false notions that Muslims are collectively responsible for the violence."
Quote:"At a Georgetown University event last month on anti-Muslim bias, speaker Linda Sarsour said she struggled with Muslims who take part in such news conferences. "It reinforces the fallacy that I have something in common with" the Islamic State group...........".
You do, it's called RELIGION. All religions need to step up and condemn any criminal acts (terror, murder, fraud, molestation, .........) committed in that religions name or by someone in that religious community. Yeah, you to xtians.
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RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation
December 6, 2015 at 9:56 pm
I actually wonder how much responsibility does one hold for ideas - If I'm a communist, am I supposed to apologize because "stalin"? "Hey guys, I'm sorry, but I just love worker's rights!". ??
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RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation
December 6, 2015 at 10:00 pm
(December 6, 2015 at 9:56 pm)Dystopia Wrote: I actually wonder how much responsibility does one hold for ideas - If I'm a communist, am I supposed to apologize because "stalin"? "Hey guys, I'm sorry, but I just love worker's rights!". ??
Apology is different from condemnation though isn't it? Would you find it easy to condemn Stalin if you were a communist do you think?
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RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation
December 6, 2015 at 10:08 pm
(December 6, 2015 at 9:56 pm)Dystopia Wrote: I actually wonder how much responsibility does one hold for ideas - If I'm a communist, am I supposed to apologize because "stalin"? "Hey guys, I'm sorry, but I just love worker's rights!". ??
Today? It's a little late but yes. Especially is the actions are death, torture, starvation, oppression,.......... You don't think americans now condemn slavery, treatment of native americans, racism, homelessness.......... Yeah, I know some of the shit continues, but if you don't stand up and state that it is wrong and needs to be corrected how are you going to progress?
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RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation
December 6, 2015 at 10:23 pm
here we go again . . . I guess I'm not sure why I would be surprised this condemnation thing is turning into a 'thing'.
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RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation
December 6, 2015 at 10:23 pm
(This post was last modified: December 6, 2015 at 10:25 pm by God of Mr. Hanky.)
(December 6, 2015 at 9:56 pm)Dystopia Wrote: I actually wonder how much responsibility does one hold for ideas - If I'm a communist, am I supposed to apologize because "stalin"? "Hey guys, I'm sorry, but I just love worker's rights!". ??
I don't think Muslim organizations should be expected to apologize for other sectarian groups, nor for their own followers when they go and do what they do without their support. But even Christians condemn those who commit acts of terror in their name (few were silent when the IRA committed acts of terror in Northern Ireland and London). If said peaceful Muslims are unwilling to distance themselves from violent sects which justify their action from the same book which they go by, and make some attempt to publicly refute any claims that those passages should be interpreted as a call to commit violence, then why should anyone else believe they don't support violence? Their book calls on them to commit rape, genital butchery, murder, suicide, honor-killings, acts of terror, to practice the most barbaric excuses for justice since the 7th Century, while inciting idiots all over the world to assassinate anyone for the slightest insult to their ideas! Whether the people who do this are your brothers in Christ, Islam, or your fellow atheists, it should behoove you to demonstrate how they are not like you, if you can.
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RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation
December 6, 2015 at 10:26 pm
(December 6, 2015 at 9:56 pm)Dystopia Wrote: I actually wonder how much responsibility does one hold for ideas - If I'm a communist, am I supposed to apologize because "stalin"? "Hey guys, I'm sorry, but I just love worker's rights!". ??
Wait.
You're a communist??
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RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation
December 6, 2015 at 10:36 pm
(This post was last modified: December 6, 2015 at 10:37 pm by abaris.)
We had this in another thread. Why are muslims supposed to appologize for every action their radicals do? Did anyone ask christians to distance themselves from Brejvik? For the other nutters, shooting up abortion clinics or doctors? Why the double standards? Were jews called out when Barruch Goldstein shot up a mosque?
Short answer, if you're not affiliated with certain actions, you shouldn't be called out. You had no part in it, so you're not guilty by association.
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RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation
December 6, 2015 at 10:36 pm
Quote:Apology is different from condemnation though isn't it?
I don't know. Both are equally worthless. It's like praying.
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RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation
December 6, 2015 at 10:39 pm
(December 6, 2015 at 10:36 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Apology is different from condemnation though isn't it?
I don't know. Both are equally worthless. It's like praying.
I think they're both very worthwhile expressions. Unlike praying.
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