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Does anyone else feel like this?
#11
RE: Does anyone else feel like this?
Although it contains some nice pieces and good morals here and there it's mostly a piece of shit, yes.
whatever floats your goat
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#12
RE: Does anyone else feel like this?
Whenever I feel Christian music tugging at my heart strings, I read the Bible until the feeling goes away.

That book is a constant reminder of why I left Christianity.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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#13
RE: Does anyone else feel like this?
(December 8, 2015 at 10:11 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: Whenever I feel Christian music tugging at my heart strings, I read the Bible until the feeling goes away.

That book is a constant reminder of why I left Christianity.

Oh yeah - classics like the Thompson Alleluia . . . good choir settings of hymns . . . good gospel music . . . who cares WHAT they're sayin', it could tug at anyone's heart strings.  Somebody needs to re-work some lyrics and keep some of that xtian music alive.  Bits of gospel went into modern popular genres, but not in its pure form.

But any more I have to actively work at focusing my attention on the pure sound and ignoring the lyrics! Sleepy
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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#14
RE: Does anyone else feel like this?
(December 8, 2015 at 10:27 am)drfuzzy Wrote:
(December 8, 2015 at 10:11 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: Whenever I feel Christian music tugging at my heart strings, I read the Bible until the feeling goes away.

That book is a constant reminder of why I left Christianity.

Oh yeah - classics like the Thompson Alleluia . . . good choir settings of hymns . . . good gospel music . . . who cares WHAT they're sayin', it could tug at anyone's heart strings.  Somebody needs to re-work some lyrics and keep some of that xtian music alive.  Bits of gospel went into modern popular genres, but not in its pure form.

But any more I have to actively work at focusing my attention on the pure sound and ignoring the lyrics! Sleepy
It would be kewl to get my hands on some gospel karaoke music. Amazing Grace would become A Crazy FaceBig Grin
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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#15
RE: Does anyone else feel like this?
Some music created through religion is beautiful. Just the melody.
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#16
RE: Does anyone else feel like this?
(December 8, 2015 at 9:44 am)Kingpin Wrote:
(December 8, 2015 at 1:37 am)dyresand Wrote: After reading the bible you just look at angry for a moment because how it really fucked  up humanity?

Let's pretend the bible didn't exist, do you honestly believe humanity wouldn't find another way to screw things up?  As a matter of fact, I think you believe (correct me if I'm wrong please) humanity invented God and all religions, so the fault is not the religion but humanity itself.  Humanity f''ed up humanity.  I don't see your point really.

The parasite class, the wannabe leaders too weak and cowardly to do the job themselves but still desire the wealth and fine living, worked out a way to exploit their way behind the throne. The ancient Egyptians pretty much nailed the formula, and the priests of the Middle Ages refined and concentrated it through superstitious fear; to the point where people even now willingly seek out their own chains. Don't blame humanity for the crimes of one institution of con merchants.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#17
RE: Does anyone else feel like this?
(December 8, 2015 at 12:46 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(December 8, 2015 at 9:44 am)Kingpin Wrote: Let's pretend the bible didn't exist, do you honestly believe humanity wouldn't find another way to screw things up?  As a matter of fact, I think you believe (correct me if I'm wrong please) humanity invented God and all religions, so the fault is not the religion but humanity itself.  Humanity f''ed up humanity.  I don't see your point really.

The parasite class, the wannabe leaders too weak and cowardly to do the job themselves but still desire the wealth and fine living, worked out a way to exploit their way behind the throne. The ancient Egyptians pretty much nailed the formula, and the priests of the Middle Ages refined and concentrated it through superstitious fear; to the point where people even now willingly seek out their own chains. Don't blame humanity for the crimes of one institution of con merchants.

And what do you say is the source of said institution of con merchants?  Humanity.
We are not made happy by what we acquire but by what we appreciate.
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#18
RE: Does anyone else feel like this?
(December 8, 2015 at 9:44 am)Kingpin Wrote:
(December 8, 2015 at 1:37 am)dyresand Wrote: After reading the bible you just look at angry for a moment because how it really fucked  up humanity?

Let's pretend the bible didn't exist, do you honestly believe humanity wouldn't find another way to screw things up?  As a matter of fact, I think you believe (correct me if I'm wrong please) humanity invented God and all religions, so the fault is not the religion but humanity itself.  Humanity f''ed up humanity.  I don't see your point really.

You are correct.

The Quran seems to be doing a pretty good job. 

If it wasn't for Constantine, it would some other religion and their immoral, incoherent religion and texts than Christianity and the Bible. Maybe Zoroastrianism and the Avesta?

If so, you'd be a Zoroastrian now, I'd still be an atheist.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#19
RE: Does anyone else feel like this?
(December 8, 2015 at 3:14 pm)Kingpin Wrote:
(December 8, 2015 at 12:46 pm)Stimbo Wrote: The parasite class, the wannabe leaders too weak and cowardly to do the job themselves but still desire the wealth and fine living, worked out a way to exploit their way behind the throne. The ancient Egyptians pretty much nailed the formula, and the priests of the Middle Ages refined and concentrated it through superstitious fear; to the point where people even now willingly seek out their own chains. Don't blame humanity for the crimes of one institution of con merchants.

And what do you say is the source of said institution of con merchants?  Humanity.

As I said, the parasite class. The weak minded lackwits who covet the trappings of office but have no talent or desire to do the actual work necessary to achieve it, so seek to convince the desperate and the desolate alike to empty their pockets in the hope of a promised glimpse of the divine. Humanity in the sense that they are still people exploiting other people's credulity and superstitions, but it's not a trade of which to be proud, quite frankly.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#20
RE: Does anyone else feel like this?
Even if a person considers all "holy books" to be 100% BS he's still so brainwashed that he follows the basic rule, which is to believe and obey without exception. He might toss the belief in deities overboard but he will create his own "god" that he will believe in and obey without exception. For instance, people willfully do that in times of national crisis when their leaders tell them what a bunch of scum the folks over the hill are. So they gladly suit up and pick up clubs to go smash their brains even though they have no first hand experience with the people over the hill. They have elevated their leader to "god" and believe what he says without exception. If he says to roast them alive they will do it without a second thought. That's exactly what the characters in the Bible and in the Koran did.

Only idiots think that an invisible celestial deity holds conversations with people.
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