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Simple mathematical error in quran.
#11
RE: Simple mathematical error in quran.
Quote:are you sure you read my post before you reply?
coming from you this means a lot...
Quote:the case you mentioned is not in the Quran so you must admit first you was ignorant and adding different situations to each other(as the subject was mathematical error in the Quran) and after that i will tell you what to do in the situation you mentioned
the case I mentioned is an example using quran's clear instructions! Quran gives all conditions for each situation just like modern laws(thats not a compliment.)all you have to do is to apply these rules to situations.
Of course quran is not mentioned about all situations like "if you have 3 daugther or 4 daugther ......" it simply says "But if there are daughters, two or more, for them is two thirds of one's estate" you can see the condition here if there are 2 daughters or more you should do this. it is a condition.
it has given rules just like that and i am using this rules. Dude all muslim countries doing it like i do. I dont know why are you struggling that much to understand.I will not tell you this again. becouse its getting dull.

Quote:i explained this over 3 times and you still dont understand again for the last time in the Quran we are given general rules there is no rule given in th Quran with all the possible situations that could happen
like you said, give me a quotation in quran about this statement. becouse i can give some which proves its the other way around.

Quote:you are asking the same questions after i answer them but just in this post you started changing your position from mathematical error in the Quran to explaining the particular situation you mentioned before
plz annatar use more polite way in talking unless you have nothing to do except talking in a bad way
and this means you really didn't understand what i said at the begining.(or you dont want to understand)I said you can't divide your heritage with quran's instructions. and i gave an example that shows why you can't divide. Is this not a mathematical error?
Muhammed simply messed up with calculations. And you just can't take up with it.
Quote:Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.

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#12
RE: Simple mathematical error in quran.
i think i understood what you mean by avl i will answer you as soon as possible as am at work now and you made me search in hadith books a lot to get you the evidence of what am saying from hadith and also to understand what you mean by avl Angry
anyway i will answer you in details as i can once i get back to home Smile
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#13
RE: Simple mathematical error in quran.
(June 28, 2010 at 3:30 am)mo3taz3nbar Wrote: i will answer you as soon as possible as am at work now ...i will answer you in details as i can once i get back to home Smile

I'm sure Allah would agree converting infidels is much more important than any 'work' you may be doing.
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#14
RE: Simple mathematical error in quran.
Quote:I dont know why are you struggling that much to understand.I will not tell you this again. becouse its getting dull.
because you kept saying avl when its called al-awl and you didnt even mention that you are writing arabic word in english i thought that avl is an abbreviation of something lol
Quote:like you said, give me a quotation in quran about this statement. becouse i can give some which proves its the other way around.
it doesnt need a qoutation from the quran but you will never find in the quran anything that contain details for exceptions or different situations with no need there is always a fixed rule and you can measure any situation with this fixed or general rule
Quote:and this means you really didn't understand what i said at the begining
if the situation you are talking about was mentioned in the Quran(what you was claiming at the begining) it would be certainly a mistake.if its not mentioned then its an exception and you can get it back to sunnah or the ruler to decide what to do without violating the ratio between familly members
Quote: i gave an example that shows why you can't divide. Is this not a mathematical error?
no its an exception that can be solved under the general rules
Quote:Muhammed simply messed up with calculations. And you just can't take up with it.
lol no you just messed up understanding and you get in the middle of something that needs reading and concentrating to understand it especially if you dont know about law.anyway i will explain it in more details as i see you have a problem with it
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RE: Simple mathematical error in quran.
Quote:Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.

Gandalf The Gray.
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#17
RE: Simple mathematical error in quran.
@ annatar i think now we are getting closer in this issue. i think the difference is that you want the Quran to say every little detail as God is talking with a little child Smile and i see that the Quran give you the general rules and you can put your law under this general rules which will lead to the same reasons the inheritance law was mentioned in the Quran.which is fairness between family members in inheritance
if every little detail of the laws was mentioned in the Quran that will not be fair to different countries and different cultures and also the changes that happen with time thats the main reason some of the details is left for shura under the general rules(am talking in general not about inheritance)
i will try to clarify how general rules work in the Quran.so do you think that cigarretes is forbidden according to islam?
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#18
RE: Simple mathematical error in quran.
(June 30, 2010 at 5:47 am)mo3taz3nbar Wrote: @ annatar i think now we are getting closer in this issue. i think the difference is that you want the Quran to say every little detail as God is talking with a little child Smile and i see that the Quran give you the general rules and you can put your law under this general rules which will lead to the same reasons the inheritance law was mentioned in the Quran.which is fairness between family members in inheritance
if every little detail of the laws was mentioned in the Quran that will not be fair to different countries and different cultures and also the changes that happen with time thats the main reason some of the details is left for shura under the general rules(am talking in general not about inheritance)
i will try to clarify how general rules work in the Quran.so do you think that cigarretes is forbidden according to islam?
okay you said quran gives general rules. then whythere is a verse something like that;
Quote:O you who have believed, do not enter the houses of the Prophet except when you are permitted for a meal, without awaiting its readiness. But when you are invited, then enter; and when you have eaten, disperse without seeking to remain for conversation. Indeed, that [behavior] was troubling the Prophet, and he is shy of [dismissing] you. But Allah is not shy of the truth. And when you ask [his wives] for something, ask them from behind a partition. That is purer for your hearts and their hearts. And it is not [conceivable or lawful] for you to harm the Messenger of Allah or to marry his wives after him, ever. Indeed, that would be in the sight of Allah an enormity.
Azhab 53.(33.53)
there are so many absurd verse like that. but he couldn't afford to add one more verse about that issue while its necessary?,
admit it it. if it was god who sent this book he wouldnt make that mistake.(if it was me i wouldnt do that either.)
you can not fix this error by the way. the way they fix is completely wrong becouse as I said earlier, you are not fixing it you are violating original percentages!!!
please be rational. and dont tell me quran is just giving general rules! actually quran gives so many detail about everything such as muhammeds sexual life or his guests etc.
quran is a book written by a sick selfish tyrant.
Quote:Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.

Gandalf The Gray.
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#19
RE: Simple mathematical error in quran.
Quote:there are so many absurd verse like that. but he couldn't afford to add one more verse about that issue while its necessary?,
admit it it. if it was god who sent this book he wouldnt make that mistake.(if it was me i wouldnt do that either.)
two verses give a solution to 115 inheritance situations and you think there is a mistake in it? lol
Quote:you can not fix this error by the way. the way they fix is completely wrong becouse as I said earlier, you are not fixing it you are violating original percentages!!!
the percentage between familly members is the same which is the main reason for setting rules of inheritance
Quote:please be rational. and dont tell me quran is just giving general rules! actually quran gives so many detail about everything
the verses you quoted above is setting moral rules and how to deal with each other and i think this is not something not important
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RE: Simple mathematical error in quran.
admit it it. if it was god who sent this book he wouldnt make that mistake[/quote]

Does god have to be good at maths?

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