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Sorry, Bernie...But You Look Like A Putz Here
December 18, 2015 at 10:22 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/18/politics/b...uspension/
Quote:Sanders campaign sues DNC after database breach
The problem is that it was Sanders' campaign which hacked into Clinton's files not the other way around.
This is a bit like breaking into a house and trying to sue the cops for catching you.
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RE: Sorry, Bernie...But You Look Like A Putz Here
December 18, 2015 at 10:25 pm
It's not like there's never been a story where someone breaks into a house, gets hurt or trapped somewhere, and then sues the homeowner.
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RE: Sorry, Bernie...But You Look Like A Putz Here
December 18, 2015 at 10:29 pm
And most of those stories are bullshit.
http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2015/06...uries.html
Quote:Trespassers, including burglars, are people who do not have permission or a lawful right to be on a homeowner's property. Homeowners, generally, have no duty to protect trespassers from dangers. So, a burglar cannot sue for tripping on a toy car or being hit by a falling television.
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RE: Sorry, Bernie...But You Look Like A Putz Here
December 18, 2015 at 11:13 pm
(December 18, 2015 at 10:29 pm)Minimalist Wrote: And most of those stories are bullshit.
http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2015/06...uries.html
Quote:Trespassers, including burglars, are people who do not have permission or a lawful right to be on a homeowner's property. Homeowners, generally, have no duty to protect trespassers from dangers. So, a burglar cannot sue for tripping on a toy car or being hit by a falling television.
It's true. The caveat is that if you deliberately set traps for burglars or trespassers you might very well be liable not only civly, but criminally. So no trip wires, pit traps, or land mines.
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RE: Sorry, Bernie...But You Look Like A Putz Here
December 19, 2015 at 12:19 am
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Well... You could easily get around that by putting up a disclaimer notice on your property.
You know, a written notice that states the rightful occupants of said premises are not liable for any damage (including but not limited to bodily damage) to any unauthorized person or entity who comes onto said property. And post it in a place where everyone is sure to see it.
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RE: Sorry, Bernie...But You Look Like A Putz Here
December 19, 2015 at 12:35 am
(December 19, 2015 at 12:19 am)Judi Lynn Wrote: Well... You could easily get around that by putting up a disclaimer notice on your property.
You know, a written notice that states the rightful occupants of said premises is not liable for any damage (including buy not limited to bodily damage) to any unauthorized person or entity who comes onto said property. And post it in a place where everyone is sure to see it. Posting a sign that says you aren't liable won't save you from liability for setting traps any more than putting up a sign warning that you shoot shop lifters will.
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RE: Sorry, Bernie...But You Look Like A Putz Here
December 19, 2015 at 12:44 am
Yes it will because you are saying enter at your own risk. By entering, you agree to hold the occupants free from harm should your own stupidity of entering cause you to get hurt.
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RE: Sorry, Bernie...But You Look Like A Putz Here
December 19, 2015 at 12:46 am
A homeowner or occupant is free to arrange their belongings in any manner they wish, as it is their property. If they want to place traps and call them decorations, they are free to do so.
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RE: Sorry, Bernie...But You Look Like A Putz Here
December 19, 2015 at 1:08 am
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(December 19, 2015 at 12:46 am)Judi Lynn Wrote: A homeowner or occupant is free to arrange their belongings in any manner they wish, as it is their property. If they want to place traps and call them decorations, they are free to do so.
Sure you can do it. But you'll still be liable if someone kills themself. There are many limits to what you can do with your own property. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katko_v._Briney
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RE: Sorry, Bernie...But You Look Like A Putz Here
December 19, 2015 at 3:26 am
"Hacked" is a strong word. That's not what happened. The DNC has a system which candidates and their campaigns have access to, and the campaign is able to pull information out of that system based on the candidate; for instance the Sanders campaign can get a load of phone numbers of DNC members who support him, but they can't access the same information for Clinton supporters. The systems are separated by a firewall, which is supposed to keep each campaign from accessing the other campaigns data.
What happened was some IT guy upgraded the firewall, but it either went down or didn't get configured properly, meaning campaigns could access each other's data. A member of the Sanders campaign apparently did some queries and got Clinton's data. He's been fired, so it's not clear why the entire Sanders campaign is being punished, hence them suing.
Not even remotely close to hacking, this was a DNC issue, which the DNC have decided to blame on the Sanders campaign.
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