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RE: Is it wrong to teach kids about Hell?
December 19, 2015 at 7:37 pm
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It's child abuse on the mental scale. One should never use hell as a way to scare children ever
or even teach them about it. Besides the idea of hell and a all loving god does not fit
in the same sentence. Because well if god is all loving he wouldn't let you burn for x amount of time
in a place called hell. If you talk about hell to your child you must acknowledge god is not all loving.
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RE: Is it wrong to teach kids about Hell?
December 19, 2015 at 7:41 pm
Yes, it's wrong.
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RE: Is it wrong to teach kids about Hell?
December 19, 2015 at 9:05 pm
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(December 19, 2015 at 2:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't think it is objectively wrong to teach your kids about Hell, if that is truly what you believe. [...]
Really? Does the reason for the sincere belief play ANY part in this judgement? Is it "objectively" right to use a threat of unimaginably cruel and inhumane punishment against your own children, simply because you were threatened that way by your parents, back when you thought they were magic and knew everything about everything? Even if the information you give them conflicts directly with the available knowledge and moral standards?
Then I suppose there's nothing "objectively" wrong with physically or psychologically abusing your child, if you were yourself abused as a child and you're stupid/crazy enough to believe that to be the way to raise offspring...
Primitive goat-herders, millenia ago had an excuse for being cruel to children - their lives were hard; pain, fear and death were an every-day thing. But people who live in the comfort of 21st century AND find it necessary to inflict cruelty on their children - even if they do so because they can't think of another way to influence the child's behavior - yeah, they're "objectively" WRONG.
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RE: Is it wrong to teach kids about Hell?
December 19, 2015 at 9:15 pm
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I goes I was an abused child and will be a child abuser. Better call CPS. 
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RE: Is it wrong to teach kids about Hell?
December 19, 2015 at 9:18 pm
(December 19, 2015 at 3:53 pm)Quantum Wrote: (December 19, 2015 at 3:33 pm)TrueChristian Wrote: Did he ever have to?
Did some minister/priest ever try to?
Yes he had to, but not towards ministers but towards people from our village and once our housekeeper who would drop remarks like you have to be good or else you go to hell.
I recall an incident about twenty years ago, when a friend of mine, a hobby xtian in a particularly proselytising phase at the time, told my nephew Chris (then aged about six) all about Hell and demonic monsters just waiting to get him if he was naughty. Chris took it as a game at the time, and I think stickers or badges were involved. But later, once my friend had left, Chris came to his favourite uncle - yours truly - genuinely frightened and wanted to know that it wasn't real. I managed to reassure him; then one short, sharp chat with my friend and he never tried it again. This shit does real damage; but the twat causing it isn't around to see the trauma that feeds it.
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RE: Is it wrong to teach kids about Hell?
December 19, 2015 at 9:33 pm
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(December 19, 2015 at 9:15 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I goes I was an abused child and will be a child abuser. Better call CPS.
Not necessarily. Our grandparents' generation still condoned beating their children bloody. Our parents' generation took it down a few notches and our generation seems to be largely against using violence against children. Commonly held religious beliefs are also becoming more liberal and less focused on imaginary violence. So there is progress.
Still - there are many children, who are missing out on the benefits of that social progress, often because of bad parenting, or mental disorders, masking as religious beliefs and getting away from public scrutiny. Don't you believe, for example, that the Amish are abusing their children, by denying them things, like modern education, or dental care? Is it not "objectively" wrong, or just plain-old wrong, that they pull all the teeth of young girls, replacing them with wooden dentures, to avoid future problems, because they believe, that modern medicine is "naughty"?
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RE: Is it wrong to teach kids about Hell?
December 19, 2015 at 9:50 pm
Ah, I see I see.
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RE: Is it wrong to teach kids about Hell?
December 19, 2015 at 9:52 pm
It is wrong to teach kids about anything that is false.
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RE: Is it wrong to teach kids about Hell?
December 19, 2015 at 9:54 pm
Only if you teach them that it's true.
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RE: Is it wrong to teach kids about Hell?
December 19, 2015 at 9:57 pm
Any atheist parent that values logical reasoning in their child should teach the kid about religion and convince them that hell and heaven are all indeed real.
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