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Intelligent Design
RE: Intelligent Design
Pool, I missed it if you've laid out what you believe else where. Do you have a role for a god somewhere along the way?
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RE: Intelligent Design
(January 4, 2016 at 1:59 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(January 4, 2016 at 1:43 pm)pool Wrote: I just want clarify something Rhythm, Big Grin
Are the objections you raised against my post the only objections you have against it or are there more?

P.S I agree humans weren't designed.

IOW you don't actually believe in ID.  Why do you waste our time?

Big Grin
Well, I do believe we live in a world that is intelligently designed Tongue Does that count?
Natural causes and random events seems unlikely considering how constraints caused by them have a tendency to fluctuate(Example: Evolution). I don't think there has been a recorded event in our history where these rules were broken.
Btw, my trainer made me do leg today. Can you murder him for me?

P.S: I'm not 100% sure we are intelligently designed. More like 74% sure. But that's good enough for me :>
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RE: Intelligent Design
(January 4, 2016 at 2:02 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote: Pool, I missed it if you've laid out what you believe else where.  Do you have a role for a god somewhere along the way?

Lol, you guys always majorly misunderstand me. I don't even know what a God is to believe in one Tongue
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RE: Intelligent Design
Pick a story and stick to it Pool.  Are you now claiming that natural causes are not responsible for the earth/solar system/galaxy/universe?   If you'll recall..you just explained that these things don't even count as designed, let alone intelligently designed.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Intelligent Design
(January 4, 2016 at 2:07 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(December 24, 2015 at 8:57 am)pool Wrote: Any system which has imposed rules can be thought of as designed. Don't you agree?
We have several rules imposed on our system. Rules such as laws of physics. What do you make of that?
Design doesn't imply purpose or planning. A design can be caused by random events too.

Pick a story and stick to it Pool.  Are you now claiming that natural causes are not responsible for the earth/solar system/galaxy/universe?   If you'll recall..you just explained that these things don't even count as designed, let alone intelligently designed.

Well, you can built a castle with building blocks, but you wouldn't call the castle a building block. You'd call a castle a castle. But the fact remains that the castle is the result of those building blocks.
Building blocks are like the physical laws and other rules of our world.
The castle is like what we see around us, like everything.

See what I did there?
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RE: Intelligent Design
Lol also sorry to Veritas for hijacking his thread :S
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RE: Intelligent Design
(January 4, 2016 at 2:11 pm)pool Wrote:
(January 4, 2016 at 2:07 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Pick a story and stick to it Pool.  Are you now claiming that natural causes are not responsible for the earth/solar system/galaxy/universe?   If you'll recall..you just explained that these things don't even count as designed, let alone intelligently designed.

Well, you can built a castle with building blocks, but you wouldn't call the castle a building block. You'd call a castle a castle. But the fact remains that the castle is the result of those building blocks.
Building blocks are like the physical laws and other rules of our world.
The castle is like what we see around us, like everything.

See what I did there?

No! what did you do?
Something with lego



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RE: Intelligent Design
(December 23, 2015 at 5:32 pm)Veritas Wrote: What's the best way to refute the argument that we were intelligently designed?

Richard Dawkins deals with that best.
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RE: Intelligent Design
(January 4, 2016 at 2:11 pm)pool Wrote: Well, you can built a castle with building blocks, but you wouldn't call the castle a building block. You'd call a castle a castle. But the fact remains that the castle is the result of those building blocks.
Building blocks are like the physical laws and other rules of our world.
The castle is like what we see around us, like everything.

See what I did there
 For clarity, are you now claiming that natural forces are not responsible for physical laws? You must be, because the products of natural forces do not, as you've clearly stated just a few posts ago, count as design.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Intelligent Design
(January 4, 2016 at 2:40 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(January 4, 2016 at 2:11 pm)pool Wrote: Well, you can built a castle with building blocks, but you wouldn't call the castle a building block. You'd call a castle a castle. But the fact remains that the castle is the result of those building blocks.
Building blocks are like the physical laws and other rules of our world.
The castle is like what we see around us, like everything.

See what I did there
 For clarity, are you now claiming that natural forces are not responsible for physical laws?  You must be, because the products of natural forces do not, as you've clearly stated just a few posts ago, count as design.

You aren't making sense now..
Let me put this simply

*You said that earth is not intelligently designed as it is the way it is through a bunch of random events or natural causes.
*I said that even though earth is not intelligently designed it's basic building blocks are.
Basic building blocks like each atoms.
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