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RE: Intelligent Design
January 10, 2016 at 3:51 am
The thing is, if we were designed by aliens or something, there are several extremely stupid decisions that were made but ultimately we are of course rather impressive.
But if we were designed by some sort of super being who even made the rules of the reality in which we live, we are utterly laughable in just about every way.
The fact that AAA continued to go on about this observation and value judgement rather than my actual questions is rather telling.
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RE: Intelligent Design
January 10, 2016 at 6:41 am
(January 9, 2016 at 4:02 pm)AAA Wrote: (January 9, 2016 at 3:58 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Evolution does happen...so.......not exactly an assumption. You have been describing the manner in which you take issue with the theory of evolution...not the fact of evolution. What degree did you claim to be seeking, again?
Change is a fact. Natural selection is a fact. Neo-Darwinian evolution is far from fact. Saying it is a fact does not make it a fact. And biology
You just said that the evolution is a fact and then denied evolution I is confuzitated.
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RE: Intelligent Design
January 10, 2016 at 7:07 am
(January 9, 2016 at 7:19 pm)Aroura Wrote: Please, watch this.
How order naturally arises from chaos. It is just the way nature works. You don't need a designer. It's all just...maths.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xv1j0n_...shortfilms
Just watched it all! Absolutely amazing! Thank you.
Now we just need to get Pooley to watch it and he might change his mind...
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RE: Intelligent Design
January 10, 2016 at 7:21 am
(January 9, 2016 at 7:56 pm)AAA Wrote: (January 9, 2016 at 7:19 pm)Aroura Wrote: Please, watch this.
How order naturally arises from chaos. It is just the way nature works. You don't need a designer. It's all just...maths.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xv1j0n_...shortfilms
I don't want to take the time to watch an hour long video, but let me guess at what it covers. Matter can arrange itself in symmetrical patterns that give the appearance of design.
Also order does not arise from chaos.
Matey, you are so full of shit ...
You don't want to watch an hour long real scientific video but are happy to recommend an even longer one full of religious bias!
Maybe if you did watch it, you would realise that order DOES arise from chaos ...all the time, quite naturally! No skydaddy needed....
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RE: Intelligent Design
January 10, 2016 at 8:30 am
(January 10, 2016 at 2:44 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: It's known as a Dog's Vomit slime mold apparently. Truly another beautiful gift of nature bestowed by the All-Father.
Gawd and his wonderful, wonderful creation of this beautiful, beautiful utter repulsiveness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY_uMH8Xpy0
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RE: Intelligent Design
January 10, 2016 at 9:24 am
(January 10, 2016 at 1:06 am)AAA Wrote: (January 10, 2016 at 1:00 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: The options are either you understand evolution or you don't understand it. It's not about whether you agree with it, it's not a matter of personal opinion.
So you're saying neo-Darwinian evolution is 100% fact? From a scientific standpoint, should we discourage people for questioning scientific ideas? If so, do you think this type of thinking will halt scientific progress?
I do understand it, and I think it is not the full explanation for life.
That's great. Now all you need to do is write up all your objections in a paper on the subject, then get it published in a proper peer-reviewed journal as distinct from a creationist circle-jerk one. See, what you think is actually not worth a plugged nickel compared to what you can demonstrate. Put in the work first.
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RE: Intelligent Design
January 10, 2016 at 10:56 am
AAA, why do you continue to try and poke holes in evolution, it doesn't get you any closer to proving a designer. If I where to grant you that evolution is false (which its not) and told you to lay out your case for a designer, what would it be? If your case for design is that " To me things look designed", then why should we even listen to you or take you seriously.
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RE: Intelligent Design
January 10, 2016 at 10:58 am
Indeed. Evolution or design; false dichotomy.
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RE: Intelligent Design
January 10, 2016 at 11:01 am
(January 10, 2016 at 10:58 am)robvalue Wrote: Indeed. Evolution or design; false dichotomy.
Exactly, it drives me nuts with these whacky ID people.
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RE: Intelligent Design
January 10, 2016 at 11:07 am
(January 10, 2016 at 11:01 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: (January 10, 2016 at 10:58 am)robvalue Wrote: Indeed. Evolution or design; false dichotomy.
Exactly, it drives me nuts with these whacky ID people.
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