Yup. This is For Certain.

[CapnAwesome]

The authorities should shoot these cunts dead already and stop wasting everyone else's time, or if you're for a less extreme option - put a blanket reporting ban on the situation and cut their access to food and water. Simple.

You think the rational and moral thing is for the police to shoot people for potential crimes? What the fuck is the matter with you guys???

[CapnAwesome]

As opposed to what? Going in a shooting people for potential violence? Do you guys even hear yourselves?

Excuse me. I exist as well you know, and in fact just a couple of posts above I also suggested that we cut their access to water and food and also place a blanket reporting ban on the situation. They will eventually fuck off themselves without any real force required.

You also said that the cops should just shoot them. A blanket ban on reporting the situation?? Jesus, so now freedom of the press needs to be repressed also?? What the fuck happened to the ACLU branch of the left wing? It's all been replaced by this frightening, authoritarian sponsor of state violence.

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You also said that the cops should just shoot them. A blanket ban on reporting the situation?? Jesus, so now freedom of the press needs to be repressed also?? What the fuck happened to the ACLU branch of the left wing? It's all been replaced by this frightening, authoritarian sponsor of state violence.

I support and donate quite a lot to organisations like the ACLU and the EFF actually. It was just a suggestion, probably not the best but as I keep fucking saying - there is a less extreme option there.

[CapnAwesome]

You think the rational and moral thing is for the police to shoot people for potential crimes? What the fuck is the matter with you guys???

That's what they seem to do with minority suspects, so why the fuck not? And plus you obviously didn't read my less extreme option, did you?

And it is morally wrong when they do it to minorities too! It's wrong then and wrong now. It doesn't change depending on the ideology of the people in question. The police shooting people for potential crimes or violence is wrong. No matter what. I just can't believe how utterly fucked up you guy's morals are on this.

[TheRocketSurgeon]

No one wants the cops to shoot them, not seriously. We're just saying that because it's what commonly happens when people pick up guns, occupy a building that belongs to the government (or other people), and then say publicly that they'll shoot any cop that tries to arrest them.

Generally, if you threaten to shoot cops, here, that's your ass. You get shot, instead.

It's not the simple fact that they're carrying guns that is at issue, but how they're using them. They're not just walking around with guns. They're saying, "Here are our guns. If you try to come and take them, we will use them on you."

They have broken the law; they are subject to arrest. They have made it clear that they will resist arrest with lethal violence against police.

What's the fucking question, at this point?

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No one wants the cops to shoot them, not seriously. We're just saying that because it's what commonly happens when people pick up guns, occupy a building that belongs to the government (or other people), and then say publicly that they'll shoot any cop that tries to arrest them.

Generally, if you threaten to shoot cops, here, that's your ass. You get shot, instead.

It's not the simple fact that they're carrying guns that is at issue, but how they're using them. They're not just walking around with guns. They're saying, "Here are our guns. If you try to come and take them, we will use them on you."

They have broken the law; they are subject to arrest. They have made it clear that they will resist arrest with lethal violence against police.

What's the fucking question, at this point?

So much this.

[Minimalist]

Perhaps you missed Post #39 in the flurry but in spite of the fact that the cops are not supposed to go in with guns blazing they seem to do it quite often.

If the fuckers resist arrest, particularly if they are pointing guns at the cops, why should the cops not act to protect themselves?

[Excited Penguin]

I don't consider myself bias towards an American political side but this looks like stereotypical leftwing propaganda.

That's the regressive left for you. Don't expect them to do anything, but to slowly and surely turn over all political influence to the extreme-right.

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Damn EP, maybe shorten the quote next time. That's a large ass block of text. Nevermind, he did it.

Perhaps you missed Post #39 in the flurry but in spite of the fact that the cops are not supposed to go in with guns blazing they seem to do it quite often.

If the fuckers resist arrest, particularly if they are pointing guns at the cops, why should the cops not act to protect themselves?

He seemed to ignore my solution as well. If they resist arrest then I am all for the cops protecting themselves. After all they would do just that if it were a "black militia" (for example) occupying the building.

[TheRocketSurgeon]

Damn EP, maybe shorten the quote next time. That's a large ass block of text. Nevermind, he did it.

Perhaps you missed Post #39 in the flurry but in spite of the fact that the cops are not supposed to go in with guns blazing they seem to do it quite often.

If the fuckers resist arrest, particularly if they are pointing guns at the cops, why should the cops not act to protect themselves?

He seemed to ignore my solution as well. If they resist arrest then I am all for the cops protecting themselves. After all they would do just that if it were a "black militia" (for example) occupying the building.

Complete side-track (thread derail warning!)...

Pony, did you choose your name after the female character in the Robert Salvatore novels?