Rape in Germany

[abaris]

By the way, I never thought to be rooting for Conservatives, but Angela Merkel kind of shows the good sides of conservatism. She strictly opposes the rightwing populistic course of the sister party's leader Horst Seehofer. I wonder why Bavaria always elects the most despicable and primitive figures to be prime ministers.

[Gormo]

Its ridiculous what is going on Europe, their leaders have failed to protect their citizens, for example:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/20/world/....html?_r=0

In Norway, voluntary classes that teach Muslims how not to rape have been available for a while now (from the article):

A course manual sets out a simple rule that all asylum seekers need to learn and follow: “To force someone into sex is not permitted in Norway, even when you are married to that person.”

Just unbelievable that you actually have to teach a human being that rape is wrong.

The people who raped the victims were described as "drunk and aggressive". Do Muhammadans generally drink alcohol? I know that Tunisia has decent wine making industry, but the refugees generally aren't coming from the more developed countries of the OIC (Organization of Islamic Conference) that happen to allow alcohol.

Why is this being used to attack refugees? Most of them haven't been brainwashed by Saudi, and therefore don't think it's acceptable to rape women who aren't wearing a veil. Their argument is, of course, women who aren't covered are asking to be raped. The people coming in on the boats desperate and majority are looking to escape al-Saud's henchmen in Syria and therefore don't have the Fascist mindset of those at the local Dawah table.

Evidently they do think it is acceptable.

It doesn't matter where they are from or their prior circumstances, their culture's perception of women is the crux of the problem.

[abaris]

Case is getting clearer and it's taking on a more down to earth appearance. It didn't only happen in Cologne, but in several European cities. Not at the same scale as in Cologne, but the victim reports paint a pretty clear picture. About the sexual harrassment only being a distraction while getting mugged. Seems, and that's also what police authorities assume, it's organised pickpocketing gangs.

[paulpablo]

There's some more news that two teenage girls have been gang raped by four Syrian nationals in southern Germany.


The same article says that a leaked police report says that the suspects in the cologne attacks were Syrian refugees.

Contrast that with other claims that "We have no idea who these people are at all and have no information about but we know it's impossible for them to be Syrian refugees."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...02026.html


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ja...-years-eve

Earlier, Germany’s justice minister said asylum seekers could be deported if they were found to have participated in the attacks.

Heiko Maas said that if asylum seekers were among the perpetrators, that was not a reason to place all refugees under general suspicion.

Abaris, earlier in the thread I asked you how you discovered the offenders were not refugees and you said

 I didn't discover anything. It was the German minister of Justice, Heiko Maas, saying that in a press conference.

It looks as if Heiko Maas has changed his mind because in this article he seems to be saying IF they were the perpetrators, and not claiming that they can't possibly be the perpetrators.
But as the articles say these are just the suspects to the attacks, no arrests have been made yet, but at least now, at least from what I can gather.

[account_inactive]

Deport them and refuse them entry into the country permanently, and to those who were born in Germany - well they rot in a prison cell for a few years. Filthy rapist pigs.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Its ridiculous what is going on Europe, their leaders have failed to protect their citizens, for example:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/20/world/....html?_r=0

In Norway, voluntary classes that teach Muslims how not to rape have been available for a while now (from the article):

A course manual sets out a simple rule that all asylum seekers need to learn and follow: “To force someone into sex is not permitted in Norway, even when you are married to that person.”

Just unbelievable that you actually have to teach a human being that rape is wrong.

The people who raped the victims were described as "drunk and aggressive". Do Muhammadans generally drink alcohol? I know that Tunisia has decent wine making industry, but the refugees generally aren't coming from the more developed countries of the OIC (Organization of Islamic Conference) that happen to allow alcohol.

Why is this being used to attack refugees? Most of them haven't been brainwashed by Saudi, and therefore don't think it's acceptable to rape women who aren't wearing a veil. Their argument is, of course, women who aren't covered are asking to be raped. The people coming in on the boats desperate and majority are looking to escape al-Saud's henchmen in Syria and therefore don't have the Fascist mindset of those at the local Dawah table.

Evidently they do think it is acceptable.

It doesn't matter where they are from or their prior circumstances, their culture's perception of women is the crux of the problem.

 A lot of the European politicians are collaborating with the Islamists for money.  The corruption runs deep and wide.

[downbeatplumb]

I go to work every day in Beirut, and I live in Lebanon, and yet it pains me more to see bad shit happen in Europe which I have never been to. And that is because I KNOW the people of Beirut, war and death loving people. We've been at war with Israel for 70 years now, you can get arrested for bringing up the idea of peace. Corruption is rampant from the highest office of government to the office security. Selfish people only out for themselves. I feel no pity for my own people, I feel pity for people who worked hard to build a good beautiful life to see it shit on by strangers.

Beirut is a shit hole made by people who shit where they eat, people that made sure they have no friends in the world. We're at war with everyone, except for the Iranians of course, the bombs have to come from somewhere.

Yeah, Germans have never done anything bad to other countries.

[mr_j936]

I go to work every day in Beirut, and I live in Lebanon, and yet it pains me more to see bad shit happen in Europe which I have never been to. And that is because I KNOW the people of Beirut, war and death loving people. We've been at war with Israel for 70 years now, you can get arrested for bringing up the idea of peace. Corruption is rampant from the highest office of government to the office security. Selfish people only out for themselves. I feel no pity for my own people, I feel pity for people who worked hard to build a good beautiful life to see it shit on by strangers.

Beirut is a shit hole made by people who shit where they eat, people that made sure they have no friends in the world. We're at war with everyone, except for the Iranians of course, the bombs have to come from somewhere.

Yeah, Germans have never done anything bad to other countries.

I'm not talking about other countries, I'm talking about a people that kill one another and rob one another.

[paulpablo]

And now police admit the majority of those suspected of the assaults that took place were asylum seekers or illegal immigrants.

"Those in focus of criminal police investigations are mostly people from North African countries. The majority of them are asylum-seekers and people who are in Germany illegally,"

The police chief in the city has been suspended for downplaying these sexual assaults.

[Minimalist]

It seems that even Germans have a limit.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35271171

Cologne attacks: Merkel proposes tougher migrant laws