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Change of position - All drugs should be legal
#31
RE: Change of position - All drugs should be legal
Oh, shit, by mixing my cannabutter with flour, sugar, vanilla, and eggs, I've become a felon once again!

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#32
RE: Change of position - All drugs should be legal
(January 14, 2016 at 12:07 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(January 13, 2016 at 10:33 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: You may have misread. I said every drug should be legal, silly.  Shy

Why would you "highly discourage" something that's of no consequence to anyone?

Well it is of consequence to the person doing it. It's terribly unhealthy and can ruin lives. 

We should discourage by educating/warning people how bad it is. It's really worked for cigarettes.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#33
RE: Change of position - All drugs should be legal
(January 12, 2016 at 5:05 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Even healthy acts like sex can become addictive.

I'd like to OD.

Considering your advanced age, it probably wouldn't take much. Tongue
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#34
RE: Change of position - All drugs should be legal
(January 13, 2016 at 10:30 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(January 13, 2016 at 9:24 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Every drug should be legal. But like cigarettes, should be highly discouraged.

Of what consequence is it to anyone if I consume a THC-infused chocolate chip cookie in the privacy of my own home?  (Which, BTW, I intend to do post haste.  I just gotta make the cookies.)

Oh look, marijuana use is a gateway to.... BAKING!

marijuana is a gateway to eating too much pizza and falling asleep while watching cartoons.
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#35
RE: Change of position - All drugs should be legal
(January 14, 2016 at 12:22 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(January 14, 2016 at 12:07 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Why would you "highly discourage" something that's of no consequence to anyone?

Well it is of consequence to the person doing it. It's terribly unhealthy and can ruin lives. 

We should discourage by educating/warning people how bad it is. It's really worked for cigarettes.

What about marijuana is terribly unhealthy? And can you point to one life marijuana has ruined (except by the state)?
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.
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#36
RE: Change of position - All drugs should be legal
(January 14, 2016 at 12:32 am)The_Empress Wrote:
(January 14, 2016 at 12:22 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Well it is of consequence to the person doing it. It's terribly unhealthy and can ruin lives. 

We should discourage by educating/warning people how bad it is. It's really worked for cigarettes.

What about marijuana is terribly unhealthy? And can you point to one life marijuana has ruined (except by the state)?

I didn't realize we were talking about weed specifically. To me, it's already a given that weed should be legal, so when I said "I think all drugs should be legal but highly discouraged" I was referring to all the other (more hardcore) drugs that are actually up for debate in whether or not they should be legal.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#37
RE: Change of position - All drugs should be legal
(January 14, 2016 at 12:22 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(January 14, 2016 at 12:07 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Why would you "highly discourage" something that's of no consequence to anyone?

Well it is of consequence to the person doing it. It's terribly unhealthy and can ruin lives. 

We should discourage by educating/warning people how bad it is. It's really worked for cigarettes.

In what way is a THC-infused chocolate chip cookie consumed in the privacy of my own home "terribly unhealthy" in relation to a regular one? In what way is THC eaten - not smoked - harmful to anyone? Got a link to a study, or something?

That aside, I believe what worked for cigarettes largely, was taxing them into unaffordability to minors and young adults, which is traditionally when the pushers tobacco companies got them hooked secured them as customers. Personally, I would have stuck it to the pushers rather than putting a regressive tax that disproportionately affected the poor. But that's just me.
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#38
RE: Change of position - All drugs should be legal
(January 14, 2016 at 12:40 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(January 14, 2016 at 12:32 am)The_Empress Wrote: What about marijuana is terribly unhealthy? And can you point to one life marijuana has ruined (except by the state)?

I didn't realize we were talking about weed specifically. To me, it's already a given that weed should be legal, so when I said "I think all drugs should be legal but highly discouraged" I was referring to all the other (more hardcore) drugs that are actually up for debate in whether or not they should be legal.

You didn't realize that when I said:

(January 13, 2016 at 10:30 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Of what consequence is it to anyone if I consume a THC-infused chocolate chip cookie in the privacy of my own home?

that I was referring to the consumption of marijuana?
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#39
RE: Change of position - All drugs should be legal
(January 14, 2016 at 1:07 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(January 14, 2016 at 12:22 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Well it is of consequence to the person doing it. It's terribly unhealthy and can ruin lives. 

We should discourage by educating/warning people how bad it is. It's really worked for cigarettes.

In what way is a THC-infused chocolate chip cookie consumed in the privacy of my own home "terribly unhealthy" in relation to a regular one?  In what way is THC eaten - not smoked - harmful to anyone?  Got a link to a study, or something?

I don't even know what THC is, CD. Honestly what I had in mind when I made that comment were things like Heroin, Cocaine, Meth...   

Those drugs should be legal but highly discouraged through educating and consistently informing people about how harmful they are. If a particular "drug" (like weed for example) is not harmful, then there would be no basis for discouraging it. I figure it's a given that weed should be legal anyway, so my comment was aimed at the more hardcore drugs.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#40
RE: Change of position - All drugs should be legal
(January 14, 2016 at 1:09 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(January 14, 2016 at 12:40 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I didn't realize we were talking about weed specifically. To me, it's already a given that weed should be legal, so when I said "I think all drugs should be legal but highly discouraged" I was referring to all the other (more hardcore) drugs that are actually up for debate in whether or not they should be legal.

You didn't realize that when I said:

(January 13, 2016 at 10:30 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Of what consequence is it to anyone if I consume a THC-infused chocolate chip cookie in the privacy of my own home?

that I was referring to the consumption of marijuana?

I thought you were using that as an example, my apologies. I didn't know what THC was until I looked it up and saw that it's just weed. My post was not directed towards weed because it's already obvious that weed should be legal. I just assumed "THC" was in the hardcore drug category when I saw your comment.  

(with that being said... sheesh lol, I didn't realize so much would come from that little comment I made. People get way too defensive about this stuff, imho.)
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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