Atheism & the Death Penalty.

[Heat]

Here's the reason the death penalty shouldn't exist:

Because we get the wrong guy ALL THE TIME.

[SofaKingHigh]

What do my religious beliefs and my views on killing people have to do with each other?

[Jehanne]

What do my religious beliefs and my views on killing people have to do with each other?

For those of you who support the death penalty, what is your consideration on the emotional trauma which executions causes strangers.  Consider the case of children who have hung themselves after an execution:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=2773792

Or, for that matter, death penalty protesters who sob and wail outside of the death house, a common occurrence?  Are the deaths of these little children and the emotional scars upon complete strangers necessary?  What purpose do executions serve, given the fact that murder is one of the lowest recidivist crimes?

[God of Mr. Hanky]

Are you not interested in making this one better than it is?

You say that like thats actually the choice. 
Like public opinion actually dictates policy decisions as opposed to the desired policy decisions influencing public opinion through a combination of misdirection, NLP and charisma.
Theres two things you need to remember about the democracy train; its tracks go along the most profitable path. Always. If there isn't some kind of angle to make profit then it doesn't make the list of stops.
The second thing? Nothing changes its course. Ever. You can be on the front of the train or on the back and the level of service you get will scale... but you don't change its destination. You help it along, get run over by it or just sit down and shut up.
Theres no drivers on this train, its automated. Just passengers with varying degrees of usefulness.

Therefore, society is just an illusory scam. Just take what you can, while you can get away with it, says the mind which sees no good nor evil, only rewards and consequences. Live and let the delusioned do-gooders die!

Most Christians attribute the above philosophy to all atheists, it's a canard which most of us spend our lives fighting...and then here you are!

[Jehanne]

You say that like thats actually the choice. 
Like public opinion actually dictates policy decisions as opposed to the desired policy decisions influencing public opinion through a combination of misdirection, NLP and charisma.
Theres two things you need to remember about the democracy train; its tracks go along the most profitable path. Always. If there isn't some kind of angle to make profit then it doesn't make the list of stops.
The second thing? Nothing changes its course. Ever. You can be on the front of the train or on the back and the level of service you get will scale... but you don't change its destination. You help it along, get run over by it or just sit down and shut up.
Theres no drivers on this train, its automated. Just passengers with varying degrees of usefulness.

Therefore, society is just an illusory scam. Just take what you can, while you can get away with it, says the mind which sees no good nor evil, only rewards and consequences. Live and let the delusioned do-gooders die!

Most Christians attribute the above philosophy to all atheists, it's a canard which most of us spend our lives fighting...and then here you are!

Comedians often tell us what reality truly consists of.  I recall a stand-up by Carlin where he discusses some evangelical Christian witness in the execution chamber who was "cuming in his pants."

[God of Mr. Hanky]

What do my religious beliefs and my views on killing people have to do with each other?

For those of you who support the death penalty, what is your consideration on the emotional trauma which executions causes strangers.  Consider the case of children who have hung themselves after an execution:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=2773792

Or, for that matter, death penalty protesters who sob and wail outside of the death house, a common occurrence?  Are the deaths of these little children and the emotional scars upon complete strangers necessary?  What purpose do executions serve, given the fact that murder is one of the lowest recidivist crimes?

As the kid who had much difficulty adjusting, and was therefore regarded as a bad kid by school officials, the chief fears which robbed me of sleep were eternal hellfire and the idea of being strapped down and mercilessly killed by authorities who were trusted by my parents, and believed their actions were just, although I had no idea why or I knew they were wrong about me - this is a horror which few murder victims ever experience! My parents trusted people who didn't like me and were willing to make me their scapegoat, therefore I grew up in fear that my parents would betray me! This is what the society which supports the finality of capital punishment does to perfect strangers, it terrorizes troubled children, and this may turn them hopelessly against it! Society should never, ever be in the business of killing its own citizens.

[LadyForCamus]

What do my religious beliefs and my views on killing people have to do with each other?

For those of you who support the death penalty, what is your consideration on the emotional trauma which executions causes strangers.  Consider the case of children who have hung themselves after an execution:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=2773792

Or, for that matter, death penalty protesters who sob and wail outside of the death house, a common occurrence?  Are the deaths of these little children and the emotional scars upon complete strangers necessary?  What purpose do executions serve, given the fact that murder is one of the lowest recidivist crimes?

That execution was televised, which hopefully would never happen in this country, and what the hell kind of parents let their children watch a live execution?! You can hardly blame capital punishment for these tragic deaths...

[account_inactive]

I used to be somewhat in favour of the death penalty for severe crimes such as murder and terrorism, but now I am kinda against it. The person will be punished and suffer more during a life sentence. Death penalty isn't really a punishment, per se.

[Excited Penguin]

It doesn't make sense at all to kill someone for something they did, except when you can't stop them from killing otherwise, which surely isn't the case with inmates.

[Reforged]

You say that like thats actually the choice. 
Like public opinion actually dictates policy decisions as opposed to the desired policy decisions influencing public opinion through a combination of misdirection, NLP and charisma.
Theres two things you need to remember about the democracy train; its tracks go along the most profitable path. Always. If there isn't some kind of angle to make profit then it doesn't make the list of stops.
The second thing? Nothing changes its course. Ever. You can be on the front of the train or on the back and the level of service you get will scale... but you don't change its destination. You help it along, get run over by it or just sit down and shut up.
Theres no drivers on this train, its automated. Just passengers with varying degrees of usefulness.

Therefore, society is just an illusory scam. Just take what you can, while you can get away with it, says the mind which sees no good nor evil, only rewards and consequences. Live and let the delusioned do-gooders die!

Most Christians attribute the above philosophy to all atheists, it's a canard which most of us spend our lives fighting...and then here you are!

Its not something synonymous with atheism, its synonymous with politics.
Not everything is about religion or lack thereof.

You have a truly dark world view.

Only if you're not seated in first class.