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Can atheists convert theists?

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Can atheists convert theists?
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RE: Can atheists convert theists?
July 10, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Paul -

What I said was that I believe that the number of people who believe in god is increasing. I never said that I have evidence. I don't.
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RE: Can atheists convert theists?
July 10, 2010 at 5:29 pm (This post was last modified: July 10, 2010 at 5:32 pm by strattosphere.)
(July 10, 2010 at 12:16 pm)Godhead Wrote: Strattosphere -

You're equating belief in god or spirit with religion in particular. The number of people believing in a religion may be decreasing but that's not what I said. You don't have to be in a religion to believe in god. So the number of religious people can decrease, while the number of those who believe in god yet aren't in a religion can increase.

You're just making s#?t up. Where's your evidence (apart from your own wishful thinking) that anyone ever just goes from atheist to believing in God without there being some sort of intervention from a representative of a religion. It just doesn't happen, unless they have psychological problems - http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/dow...1&type=pdf
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I've just seen that you answered my question already. You have no evidence. That says it all. You must know somewhere inside that you are lying to yourself!
"Blasphemy! Blas for you! Blas for everybody in the room!" - Eddie Izzard
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RE: Can atheists convert theists?
July 10, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Strattosphere -

No, I didn't say that. I didn't specify at all how I think people are starting to believe in god. I just said that the number of people who do believe in god (by whatever route) is increasing. I don't believe I specified how.
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RE: Can atheists convert theists?
July 10, 2010 at 6:16 pm (This post was last modified: July 10, 2010 at 6:17 pm by In This Mind.)
(July 10, 2010 at 5:32 pm)Godhead Wrote: Strattosphere -

No, I didn't say that. I didn't specify at all how I think people are starting to believe in god. I just said that the number of people who do believe in god (by whatever route) is increasing. I don't believe I specified how.

Actually, the number of non-religious individuals has gone from around 11% to 20% among younger folks, according to http://www.humaniststudies.org

In fact, 'non-religious', seems to be the only category increasing. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/27/us/27a....html?_r=1

It's just amazing how many easily disproved falsehoods you claim to believe.
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RE: Can atheists convert theists?
July 10, 2010 at 6:20 pm
In this mind -

As I say, you don't have to be religious to believe in god.
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RE: Can atheists convert theists?
July 10, 2010 at 6:25 pm (This post was last modified: July 10, 2010 at 6:25 pm by In This Mind.)
re·li·gious (rĭ-lĭj'əs)
adj.
1. Having or showing belief in and reverence for God or a deity.
2. Of, concerned with, or teaching religion: a religious text.
3. Extremely scrupulous or conscientious: religious devotion to duty.

Um, yeah, you do.
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RE: Can atheists convert theists?
July 10, 2010 at 6:28 pm
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No not at all. I'm not a member of any religion. Christianity, Islam, Hinduism are some examples of religions. And there are many more. You don't have to be a member of any of them to believe in god.
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RE: Can atheists convert theists?
July 10, 2010 at 6:32 pm
(July 10, 2010 at 6:28 pm)Godhead Wrote: In this mind -

No not at all. I'm not a member of any religion. Christianity, Islam, Hinduism are some examples of religions. And there are many more. You don't have to be a member of any of them to believe in god.

Yes, you are. You are a member of a religion you invented for your very own self. The fact that the membership of this religion numbers only one fruitcake does not mean it is not a religion.
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RE: Can atheists convert theists?
July 10, 2010 at 6:38 pm
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No I don't think you understand. There's a distinction between religion and personal beliefs.
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RE: Can atheists convert theists?
July 10, 2010 at 6:45 pm (This post was last modified: July 10, 2010 at 6:47 pm by In This Mind.)
(July 10, 2010 at 6:38 pm)Godhead Wrote: In this mind -

No I don't think you understand. There's a distinction between religion and personal beliefs.

re·li·gious (rĭ-lĭj'əs)
adj.
1. Having or showing belief in and reverence for God or a deity.

Do you believe in a deity?

Yes?

Then you are religious.

Do your personal beliefs include a deity?

Yes?

Then you are religious.

I know you really, really, really want to believe you are special, sorry, sweetie, you are religious, just like all the other deluded souls.

Well, actually, you are a Poe, but I'm referring to the character you are playing.
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