Interracial Marriage and the Bible

[Drich]

Drich is a fucking asshole.  

Actually I give the illusion of being a f-ing b-hole.. If you guys stopped and thought about what i am actually saying
you might actually agree with a point or two.. I know this to be true because many of you think your argueing against me, but are using the very same points i am using.

Whenever I read his comments he reminds me of Pat Robertson.  That's probably a good thing according to him.

I guess, I don't know who that is..

No sense of belonging?  Really?

Nuupe try again. I said an interracial kid can belong and often will be loved. They will not have any sense of racial belonging unless the look like one race or the other. if they look like an even mixture of both, they will struggle with this racial identity the rest of they life.

 This is fucking America dipshit.

Are you really that stupid g-ma? (does pat robertson call people stupid?)
Do you know the rest of the world is not America, and do you understand the world does not opperate on blue state values? Heck even all of America does not operate on blue state values.

 We're a motherfucking cultural mixing pot.

So... if your grand kids stay in the blue states they will be fine... To you this is normal? this is what you want for your grand kids, to limit them where their ethnicity is not questioned or challenged?? What happens when they wander out of the milk chocolate/melting pot safe environment they grew up in and get challenged by some all black or all white kids or Both sets kids?

As the white grandmother to two black grandchildren, I'd say my family are doing fucking fine fitting in.
 Sure, there's some racist assholes out there.  I don't give a shit about their opinion, and neither does my daughter or their son-in-law, and I'm sure their children when they get older won't give a fuck either.  

As an interracial PERSON I say give it time.
It won't just be one asshole who challenges them. The problem I am pointing out is their 'identity' is ONLY through their friends and family. Not with a people.
example:
Imagine a random black guy, in a unknown well populated black neighborhood being attacked by just two lone redneck white b-holes... How long does the black get beaten, before the 'sense of racial community' sends out a dozen other black guys to help the one getting his teeth kicked in?

Now if your grandkids (all grown up) were more white than black, and they were getting their teeth kicked in, in this same neighborhood, how long do you think they would have to wait? would help even come?

Despite your answer or what you want to happen, the fact that their is a pause or question here, that does not happen with in among racially specific communities. The only way your g-kids get help is if someone has been indoctrinated with melting pot ideology. Otherwise it is far too easy to "just mind our own business."

People who use that argument aren't just assholes though.  They're goddamn morons who lack the brain cells to do anything more than waste our oxygen.

So... the rest of the world you mean? or is this more of the white guilt i was talking about in the other posts? Again, what if I weren't white? What if I were American Indian looking to preserve what's left of my culture? what if in order to do that i and other of my tribe feel a need to close ranks and expel all outside influences?

Are you saying American Indians who think this way are "moron assholes just taking up your oxygen??" If so what should 'we' do with them? Or again does your philosophy only apply to white people?

What if I were a black woman who does not agree with your white grandaughter 'stealing one of our good black men?' Is she then also an asshole moron who is just breathing up all your oxygen? If so What should be done with her and people like her?

In essence what is wrong with people of any given race (especially if they are in the minority) who want to preserve their heritage, if in fact it does not include those of different races?

What "you people" fail to understand when you melt down all the different flavors of ice cream into one big pot, you loose what make the ice cream desirable/good in the first place. It's individual flavor is gone, the consistency is gone, it becomes a completely different product, and while their is a market for 'ice cream soup' far more people will prefer/identify the original product warmed soup.

Again so we are clear I am that soup. I am the product of an interracial relationship, and I have seen absolutely everything I have said here in practice in the real world. what's more I make it a point to talk to interracial people, and for the most part we share this common problem. again not that we are not loved or not that we don't have friends. we simply can not identify with one group or the other unless we take on the traits of the one group over the other.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I am the product of an interracial relationship

A Baptist and a Presbyterian doesn't count as 'interracial'.

Boru

[Athene]

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The problem is your belief that everyone views racial identity through the lens of your particular childhood experiences, as well as your belief that everyone engages in your signature brand of binary thinking. Your refusal to acknowledge the fact that "a sense of community and belonging" can be attributed to an infinite number of shared interests and goals outside of race, demonstrates this very well. So, this assertion that one MUST belong to one community or none at all, is ridiculous and patently untrue.

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According to whom/what? is this a product of well wishing?
Who have you spoken what resource have you tapped? or is this you taking the pulse of what you think this nation should be?
Again the only time race is not an issue is when you belong to one or another.

I know of many mixed children and teens who simply identify as both races, and have no problem stating as such, because it's a simple statement of fact; They are part of both communities.They're quite capable of maintaining friendships, as well as relationships with family members and other individuals within multiple racial categories. Sorry you couldn't seem to make a go of it, but others often do. 

Again i did not say these people MY people can not be loved. or belong to a social group. I said we do not have a cultural heritage that bonds people together for the simply fact that they belong to a given race of people.
that is a completely different thing.

Look at your response. You could not point to a social structure equivalent to the self identification say black people have with other black people or whites with whites. You pointed to "It's not as rare as it use to be." Your comparing the right of hundreds of thousands of years of basic self identification, against it's not as rare as it use to be.

The point you're attempting to make in this quote makes little sense to me, (especially the last sentence), but I will say that if you're referring to the concept of race as a social construct, then it is NOT absolute. Society's views on issues of race very well can and do change over time, for a variety of reasons...including increased awareness and exposure.  Ever heard of popular morality, Drich? It's a thing!  

It does not make sense because you are not willing to look at this situation from any other way.

again What I am saying interracial couples take from their children are a 100,000+ years of racial identity. This Will NEVER be replaced by anything else. Yet you want to take this racial identity and replace it with a sentiment that 'society should have' via pop moral standards. To which again I point out that these standards are fleeting, and can change within a person's life time. Yet Racial identity from people of a given race with never change with in those people. Because it about a common blood line and a tangible history, not about a fad or the current popular thinking.

If someone were to tell me that they don't feel race is the most prevalent factor shaping their identity, I would be inclined to take them at their word. Why? Because I can easily see how being a parent, theistic beliefs (Woot, woot!), military service, social groups/causes, political beliefs, career/occupation/vocation, etc. as being just as, if not more essential in defining who they are most of the time.

Roflol..
So you don't think race influences ALL of those things? Not that one can't go beyond racial lines, but again I'm asking do you honestly think that race does not heavily influence a decision on any of those topics?

If I were Arab do you not think Islam or my belief in it would not be tied to my people heritage in anyway?
Or if I were Israeli my military service would not be compelled by my community?
What about if I were black or better yet Not black if I were all white do you think it would allow me to say run a chapter of the NAACP without their being a huge controversy?
Do you think If I were black do you think I could pick up any job I wanted in say Korea?

The truth whether you can admit to it or not is that Race defines who we are in the world. granted your little corner may want to pretend to see color, but the world is much bigger place than the 'blue states' would have us believe. In most of the rest of the world culture is Everything, it is identity, it is who and what you are. To you this may be racism, but it is the way the world works beyond the shame of white guilt/those who make white people feel guilty.

Or would you tell an American Indian that he is wrong/raciest for segregating himself on his own sovereign land and seeking to preserve his culture? would you tell a black man he is wrong for seeking to identify and establish his own cultural identity even if it meant he had to be apart of a counter cultural (non-violent) movement? Would you tell a Chinese family that they must 'americanize' themselves and to abandon their culture if it did not accept people as you do?

Or did you just mean white people must blend in with everyone and accept people as if they were with out color?
Because that is the only way your little statement works without the destruction of thousands and thousands of years of unique history and culture.

It's like you people can not think outside your little boxes.

ha ha Really? I was under the impression that it started in Kind-EE-garten!

You don't think Kind-ee-garten or even pee-schools are not selected by the race/type of children who attend?

Again think outside of your little 'blue state, of mind' box.

think how the muslim/Arab, or a jew, or an American Indian, or yes even black people person picks a preschool for their kid.

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I had to work a bit late today, so I'm a little too tired to appropriately respond to your Tower of Babble and bullshit attempts at diversion tonight. I am committed to giving your post the response it so richly deserves, though. 

I'll be getting to it soon enough...Count on it, Slick. 

[Pat Mustard]

You probably have that on a bumper sticker.

What else is there to say, the truth is the truth.

But you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the arse. You've nothing but the uevidenced nonsensical prattlings of your pastor. And that is simply not good enough.

[Drich]

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According to whom/what? is this a product of well wishing?
Who have you spoken what resource have you tapped? or is this you taking the pulse of what you think this nation should be?
Again the only time race is not an issue is when you belong to one or another.

Again i did not say these people MY people can not be loved. or belong to a social group. I said we do not have a cultural heritage that bonds people together for the simply fact that they belong to a given race of people.
that is a completely different thing.


It does not make sense because you are not willing to look at this situation from any other way.

again What I am saying interracial couples take from their children are a 100,000+ years of racial identity. This Will NEVER be replaced by anything else. Yet you want to take this racial identity and replace it with a sentiment that 'society should have' via pop moral standards. To which again I point out that these standards are fleeting, and can change within a person's life time. Yet Racial identity from people of a given race with never change with in those people. Because it about a common blood line and a tangible history, not about a fad or the current popular thinking.

Roflol..
So you don't think race influences ALL of those things? Not that one can't go beyond racial lines, but again I'm asking do you honestly think that race does not heavily influence a decision on any of those topics?

If I were Arab do you not think Islam or my belief in it would not be tied to my people heritage in anyway?
Or if I were Israeli my military service would not be compelled by my community?
What about if I were black or better yet Not black if I were all white do you think it would allow me to say run a chapter of the NAACP without their being a huge controversy?
Do you think If I were black do you think I could pick up any job I wanted in say Korea?

The truth whether you can admit to it or not is that Race defines who we are in the world. granted your little corner may want to pretend to see color, but the world is much bigger place than the 'blue states' would have us believe. In most of the rest of the world culture is Everything, it is identity, it is who and what you are. To you this may be racism, but it is the way the world works beyond the shame of white guilt/those who make white people feel guilty.

Or would you tell an American Indian that he is wrong/raciest for segregating himself on his own sovereign land and seeking to preserve his culture? would you tell a black man he is wrong for seeking to identify and establish his own cultural identity even if it meant he had to be apart of a counter cultural (non-violent) movement? Would you tell a Chinese family that they must 'americanize' themselves and to abandon their culture if it did not accept people as you do?

Or did you just mean white people must blend in with everyone and accept people as if they were with out color?
Because that is the only way your little statement works without the destruction of thousands and thousands of years of unique history and culture.

It's like you people can not think outside your little boxes.



You don't think Kind-ee-garten or even pee-schools are not selected by the race/type of children who attend?

Again think outside of your little 'blue state, of mind' box.

think how the muslim/Arab, or a jew, or an American Indian, or yes even black people person picks a preschool for their kid.

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I had to work a bit late today, so I'm a little too tired to appropriately respond to your Tower of Babble and bullshit attempts at diversion tonight. I am committed to giving your post the response it so richly deserves, though. 

I'll be getting to it soon enough...Count on it, Slick. 

Be careful... This maybe another 'gottcha' teachable moment/post.

[Godscreated]

What else is there to say, the truth is the truth.

But you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the arse. You've nothing but the uevidenced nonsensical prattlings of your pastor. And that is simply not good enough.

Exactly how do you know what I said wasn't the truth, by the way my pastor didn't teach me this truth, God did. I did enjoy your childish rattlings, keep up the childish work it will keep you on the same low level as some others here.

GC

[Pat Mustard]

But you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the arse. You've nothing but the uevidenced nonsensical prattlings of your pastor. And that is simply not good enough.

Exactly how do you know what I said wasn't the truth, by the way my pastor didn't teach me this truth, God did. I did enjoy your childish rattlings, keep up the childish work it will keep you on the same low level as some others here.

GC

I know it is not the truth because it is a blend of cultural mycths created by iron age goat fuckers and the delusional rattlings of what passes for your brain. Nothing you have ever typed into these fora has any relationship to reality.

[Athene]

The problem is your belief that everyone views racial identity through the lens of your particular childhood experiences, as well as your belief that everyone engages in your signature brand of binary thinking. Your refusal to acknowledge the fact that "a sense of community and belonging" can be attributed to an infinite number of shared interests and goals outside of race, demonstrates this very well. So, this assertion that one MUST belong to one community or none at all, is ridiculous and patently untrue.

According to whom/what? is this a product of well wishing?

According to the dictionary, Drich..under "community". Quit pretending I've stated something insanely naive or over-the-top here; It's annoying and disingenuous as hell. 

Who have you spoken what resource have you tapped?

Reality.

Again the only time race is not an issue is when you belong to one or another.

Drich, you need to understand something: You're nowhere near as slick as you believe yourself to be, so enough with the deliberate misrepresentations and diversions, Sport. I know, that you know PRECISELY what the fuck I'm talking about.

I'm talking about your attempts to paint me as some sort of liberal twit or clueless Pollyanna, who doesn't get how the fucking world works. I am not under the illusion that "race is not an issue".  I can guarantee you that I most certainly know better than that; So you can knock it the hell off from here on out. You don't get to misrepresent me because you're too puffed up and full of pride to admit that you clearly misspoke.
 
YOU are the one that made a demonstrably false statement in one of your earlier posts on this thread, in declaring that the offspring of interracial couples CANNOT feel a sense of community or belonging, as a blanket statement with no additional caveats. You're at fault for allowing your bias to prompt you to make such an outlandishly stupid claim. I responded to your initial claim by simply stating the obvious: That race and/or racial identity is not the ONLY issue or means through which people can experience a sense of community or belonging. 

Nor is it he ALWAYS the primary driving force that motivates ALL people, in ALL manner of things, at EVERY moment of existence, as you foolishly insist on maintaining in your desperate attempt to be "right".

Thena

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I know of many mixed children and teens who simply identify as both races, and have no problem stating as such, because it's a simple statement of fact; They are part of both communities.They're quite capable of maintaining friendships, as well as relationships with family members and other individuals within multiple racial categories. Sorry you couldn't seem to make a go of it, but others often do.

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Again i did not say these people MY people can not be loved. or belong to a social group.

 

Consistency, Drich....You have no people, remember?

Anyhow, Sure. I see that you've now "adjusted" your statement  by acknowledging that biracial individuals CAN in fact belong to a community "social group".  I'm guessing that the fact you've just dismantled what is essentially the main premise of your entire argument  will be summarily dismissed by you from this point on, correct? 

Of course, it will. That's why you insist on assigning me with shit I never stated, and persist in attempting suck me into a vortex unrelated side garbage throughout this post. Clearly you're the the type of person who would sooner die, than admit that one of the primary tenets in your declaration of "Truth" is just plain fucking wrong.
 

I said we do not have a cultural heritage that bonds people together for the simply fact that they belong to a given race of people.

No. You don't feel as such.

In reality, many matter-of-factly UNDERSTAND and accept that they simply have more than one racial heritage. 
You'll just continue to "overlook" this very crucial element in continuing your ridiculous narrative, yes?    

Thena

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The point you're attempting to make in this quote makes little sense to me, (especially the last sentence), but I will say that if you're referring to the concept of race as a social construct, then it is NOT absolute. Society's views on issues of race very well can and do change over time, for a variety of reasons...including increased awareness and exposure.  Ever heard of popular morality, Drich? It's a thing!  

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It does not make sense because you are not willing to look at this situation from any other way.

again What I am saying interracial couples take from their children are a 100,000+ years of racial identity. This Will NEVER be replaced by anything else. Yet you want to take this racial identity and replace it with a sentiment that 'society should have' via pop moral standards. To which again I point out that these standards are fleeting, and can change within a person's life time. Yet Racial identity from people of a given race with never change with in those people. Because it about a common blood line and a tangible history, not about a fad or the current popular thinking.

Judging by the post above, it almost seems as if your disdain actually stems from resentment at being robbed of racial purity, rather than racial identity. I hope like hell that your argument isn't actually just some stupid, self-loathing expression of being pissed that you're "not quite white"...because that would just be too sickening and pathetic for words.

Thena

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If someone were to tell me that they don't feel race is the most prevalent factor shaping their identity, I would be inclined to take them at their word. Why? Because I can easily see how being a parent, theistic beliefs (Woot, woot!), military service, social groups/causes, political beliefs, career/occupation/vocation, etc. as being just as, if not more essential in defining who they are most of the time.

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Roflol..
So you don't think race influences ALL of those things? Not that one can't go beyond racial lines, but again I'm asking do you honestly think that race does not heavily influence a decision on any of those topics?

If I were Arab do you not think Islam or my belief in it would not be tied to my people heritage in anyway?
Or if I were Israeli my military service would not be compelled by my community?
What about if I were black or better yet Not black if I were all white do you think it would allow me to say run a chapter of the NAACP without their being a huge controversy?
Do you think If I were black do you think I could pick up any job I wanted in say Korea?

The truth whether you can admit to it or not is that Race defines who we are in the world. granted your little corner may want to pretend to see color, but the world is much bigger place than the 'blue states' would have us believe. In most of the rest of the world culture is Everything, it is identity, it is who and what you are. To you this may be racism, but it is the way the world works beyond the shame of white guilt/those who make white people feel guilty.
Or would you tell an American Indian that he is wrong/raciest for segregating himself on his own sovereign land and seeking to preserve his culture? would you tell a black man he is wrong for seeking to identify and establish his own cultural identity even if it meant he had to be apart of a counter cultural (non-violent) movement? Would you tell a Chinese family that they must 'americanize' themselves and to abandon their culture if it did not accept people as you do?

Or did you just mean white people must blend in with everyone and accept people as if they were with out color?
Because that is the only way your little statement works without the destruction of thousands and thousands of years of unique history and culture.

Hmm. These questions could've been quite challenging to answer, IF I'd ever been arguing the point you've been PRETENDING I am...Classic dick move, btw.

Not entirely unexpected, since you know your original argument is shit.
Back to lab then, yes?

It's like you people can not think outside your little boxes.

Perhaps. 
But, your box is much, much smaller, and smells like  ass.

Crack a window, Drich. It fucking stinks in there.

[Drich]

According to whom/what? is this a product of well wishing?

According to the dictionary, Drich..under "community". Quit pretending I've stated something insanely naive or over-the-top here; It's annoying and disingenuous as hell. 

I guess you are not aware the word's primary meaning supports what I am describing:
com·mu·ni·ty
/kəˈmyo͞onədē/
noun
1. a group of people living in the same place or having a particular characteristic in common "Rhode Island's Japanese community"

How can I speak to you as Not being insanely naive if your 'defination of 'community' does not even repersent the very dictionary you reference???

You guys absolutely kill me with your pomp and arrogance and then pretend that I am the one off base. Yes I do flourish and strut when I am right, but here's the thing... I only do it when I AM RIGHT! Not when I think I'm right or I am on one side of an argument or another... I genuinely research EVERYTHING I even look up common words and take absolutely nothing for granted. Why? Because 9xs out of 10 you people do what you did here with your reference of the word community. You assume you know something or the meaning of a word because of how it is used in your pop world view. In contrast I have never been able to take anything for granted, I assume nothing and always seek verification and the source. So when I tell you something simple, like:
According to whom/what? is this a product of well wishing?
Who have you spoken what resource have you tapped? or is this you taking the pulse of what you think this nation should be?
Again the only time race is not an issue is when you belong to one or another.

Is because i have done my research, and I do know while people of mixed races can be loved and yes accepted into society, they will never experience the bond one experiences as being apart of a racial community. (per the very definition of the word I cut and pasted, not your hippy blue state of mind.

Who have you spoken what resource have you tapped?

Reality.

Actually no, you tapped what you thought was the definition of the word community, but were too lazy to actually check to see if you were right.

Drich, you need to understand something: You're nowhere near as slick as you believe yourself to be, so enough with the deliberate misrepresentations and diversions, Sport. I know, that you know PRECISELY what the fuck I'm talking about.

Stop "feeling"/being lead by hate and emotion and listen to me for one second. I have no doubt everything you 'feel' is correct in your little corner of the world. But understand the world is a very big big place and the vast majority of the 7 billion people on this planet do not think as you do. If you were to just take how India and Chine views race, and even their own social classes with in their races more than 1/2 of the world's population stands in direct contrast to your liberal idea of "community." Now google this before you speak and make yourself look foolish. These people do indeed view the world in what did you call it "Binary belief that one must belong to one community or not at all." Again, maybe for you and all of the little people in your little home town or even state may believe as you do. I have acknowledged your beliefs, and set them aside because in this instance I am speaking on how the WORLD WORKS. Not the people Just in your little corner of it.

I'm talking about your attempts to paint me as some sort of liberal twit or clueless Pollyanna, who doesn't get how the fucking world works.

I'm not the one with the paint sport-ress. You are painting yourself to be clueless because your world view does not include verifiable fact. Just in this last post of yours you have demonstrated this. I asked you for source material and you provided a dictionary definition that does not completely represent the word as it is being use or framed by me.

So then again, how is it I am supposed to take you seriously?

I am not under the illusion that "race is not an issue".  I can guarantee you that I most certainly know better than that; So you can knock it the hell off from here on out. You don't get to misrepresent me because you're too puffed up and full of pride to admit that you clearly misspoke.

Are you of mixed race? Do you take on the traits of one race verse the other?
 

YOU are the one that made a demonstrably false statement in one of your earlier posts on this thread, in declaring that the offspring of interracial couples CANNOT feel a sense of community or belonging, as a blanket statement with no additional caveats.

Then please demonstrate this to be false. Show me how say a 1/2 white 1/2 Chinese person who maybe looks a little more white than Chinese, will be completely accepted into a traditional Chinese community. (one that forbids the mixing of races) Of Indian which in their cast system looks at interbreeding among the various casts (same race) as being forbidden, let alone a true foreigner.

Again, your metric, your understanding ONLY WORKS where you live MAYBE... You seem to have NO Idea of how the rest of the world works. Even Oprah seems to think that lighter skinned black people are discriminated against heavily in the black community here in america:

two of Oprah's lighter-skinned audience members surprise Iyanla with the colorism discrimination they face as well.

Though one of the women has seen first-hand how some of her darker-skinned family members are treated, she says that she, too, struggled with discrimination. "Being a light-skinned girl, you get called names," she tells Iyanla. "You get called 'lite-brite,' you get called 'high yellow,' 'redbone.' This is a reality every day."

Having longer hair or lighter skin, she continues, makes others in her community assume she thinks she is prettier than them -- something she says simply isn't true. "You're alienated from your own people. You're never black enough," she says. "But we're still black in America. None of us feel advantaged."

Iyanla finds this prejudice against lighter-skinned black women very interesting. "Both the dark and the light are experiencing the same thing at different ends of the spectrum," she says before turning to the woman who had shared her story. "You got insulted by being called 'high yellow' or 'redbone,' but somebody [darker] being called a 'coon,' a 'jiggaboo,' and a 'monkey,' --"

"We're called that too," another light-skinned audience member interrupts. "We're called 'coon' and 'jiggaboo' and all those same things too. We're still called that on top of 'light bright' and all those other things."

"So the outside world that sees you as just a black person heaps the black stuff on you and then within the community, you get it," Iyanla says. "Wow."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/13...88825.html

Does this sound like all are being treated equally in this given community here is the US? Black and white is the most common racial divide and therefore more pressure is placed on those communities to 'Play well' with each other, yet here is one of many articals I have found on 'color-ism.' If all is as you say and everyone is welcome then why is 'color-ism' a thing in this 'community?' (my defination/dictionary primary, not yours)

Yet another example of how clueless you seem to be. It would seem YOUR Personal experience is the exception and not how the rule of the world works.

You're at fault for allowing your bias to prompt you to make such an outlandishly stupid claim. I responded to your initial claim by simply stating the obvious: That race and/or racial identity is not the ONLY issue or means through which people can experience a sense of community or belonging. 

Nor is it he ALWAYS the primary driving force that motivates ALL people, in ALL manner of things, at EVERY moment of existence, as you foolishly insist on maintaining in your desperate attempt to be "right".

Again, I at no point said a mix race people could not be loved of socially accepted. I said They will simply never belong to a specific racial community as someone who has both parents being of the same race.

And what's more I have posted several examples of racial division concerning people of mixed races.

Bottom line I bring facts to this discussion you are trying to argue emotion and 'feeling.' The way you want the world to work.. Here's the thing. It doesn't! Once people like you truly sees the frame work of the world you might have a chance in changing something, but if you just keep insisting your feelings on how the world works is how the world works you like all those like you are doomed to fail outside of your own little 'communities'.

Consistency, Drich....You have no people, remember?

We are not a race/community. However we are a social group of human beings/people of which I am a member. like it or not.

Anyhow, Sure. I see that you've now "adjusted" your statement  by acknowledging that biracial individuals CAN in fact belong to a community "social group".  I'm guessing that the fact you've just dismantled what is essentially the main premise of your entire argument  will be summarily dismissed by you from this point on, correct? 

nice strawman, but if you were to look back at the beginning of my last post to divinity I opened with:

Actually I give the illusion of being a f-ing b-hole.. If you guys stopped and thought about what i am actually saying
you might actually agree with a point or two.. I know this to be true because many of you think your argueing against me, but are using the very same points i am using.

Again I have always said while we can be loved... while we can be apart of a social group... we will never be apart of a community. Again the word community meaning the primary definition I posted at the top of the page, not your hippy only definition. Nothing's changed in my argument, only your perception. You see you built a straw man of my argument based on your naive definition of community, and because you do not understand the word can mean more that what you have been able to define you assume my position was the polar oppsite of yours. It wasn't.

Of course, it will. That's why you insist on assigning me with shit I never stated, and persist in attempting suck me into a vortex unrelated side garbage throughout this post. Clearly you're the the type of person who would sooner die, than admit that one of the primary tenets in your declaration of "Truth" is just plain fucking wrong.

You are correct. I will NEVER Admit to being wrong even unto death when I know my vetted information is 100% correct.

 

No. You don't feel as such.

In reality, many matter-of-factly UNDERSTAND and accept that they simply have more than one racial heritage. 
You'll just continue to "overlook" this very crucial element in continuing your ridiculous narrative, yes?    

A racial heritage that they/we will never be able to be fully apart of.
Again, even in this country Even among the most common racial divide, Oprah herself is trying to acknoweledge and bring awareness to "colorism"/bigotry of people not of pure racial decent.

...Yet you would have me believe someone who has experienced this divide 40+ years and spoken with hundreds if not thousands of other people like me who also experience this divide, we are all wrong.. because of how you personally define humanity?!?!? PLUEEZE

It does not make sense because you are not willing to look at this situation from any other way.

again What I am saying interracial couples take from their children are a 100,000+ years of racial identity. This Will NEVER be replaced by anything else. Yet you want to take this racial identity and replace it with a sentiment that 'society should have' via pop moral standards. To which again I point out that these standards are fleeting, and can change within a person's life time. Yet Racial identity from people of a given race with never change with in those people. Because it about a common blood line and a tangible history, not about a fad or the current popular thinking.

Judging by the post above, it almost seems as if your disdain actually stems from resentment at being robbed of racial purity, rather than racial identity. I hope like hell that your argument isn't actually just some stupid, self-loathing expression of being pissed that you're "not quite white"...because that would just be too sickening and pathetic for words.

Now you get it I see.
Now understand these are not my words... These are words I've heard all my life. My question is what can a parent or even family offer to off set these words?

Roflol..
So you don't think race influences ALL of those things? Not that one can't go beyond racial lines, but again I'm asking do you honestly think that race does not heavily influence a decision on any of those topics?

If I were Arab do you not think Islam or my belief in it would not be tied to my people heritage in anyway?
Or if I were Israeli my military service would not be compelled by my community?
What about if I were black or better yet Not black if I were all white do you think it would allow me to say run a chapter of the NAACP without their being a huge controversy?
Do you think If I were black do you think I could pick up any job I wanted in say Korea?

The truth whether you can admit to it or not is that Race defines who we are in the world. granted your little corner may want to pretend to see color, but the world is much bigger place than the 'blue states' would have us believe. In most of the rest of the world culture is Everything, it is identity, it is who and what you are. To you this may be racism, but it is the way the world works beyond the shame of white guilt/those who make white people feel guilty.
Or would you tell an American Indian that he is wrong/raciest for segregating himself on his own sovereign land and seeking to preserve his culture? would you tell a black man he is wrong for seeking to identify and establish his own cultural identity even if it meant he had to be apart of a counter cultural (non-violent) movement? Would you tell a Chinese family that they must 'americanize' themselves and to abandon their culture if it did not accept people as you do?

Or did you just mean white people must blend in with everyone and accept people as if they were with out color?
Because that is the only way your little statement works without the destruction of thousands and thousands of years of unique history and culture.

Hmm. These questions could've been quite challenging to answer, IF I'd ever been arguing the point you've been PRETENDING I am...Classic dick move, btw.

Not entirely unexpected, since you know your original argument is shit.
Back to lab then, yes?

If you believe that the world does not view race in "binary terms" then the above statement does indeed address your position 110%

I am demonstrating that several different cultures can and do indeed see race in 'binary terms.' You say it doesn't so my question to you is, if you are right how do you explain the types of attitudes I have outlined above?

Again, these are not my words, but words I have heard all my life arguing against my existence. So please take all your blue state philosophy, and help people like me answer these arguments. Or does none of this matter to you because it does not apply to you in your sheltered existence?

Perhaps. 
But, your box is much, much smaller, and smells like  ass.

Crack a window, Drich. It fucking stinks in there.

So, maybe this time before you go off half cocked and use more of my own arguments to try and subdue me, read what I wrote here, then I will pull all of this together into a 'teaching moment.'

[Godscreated]

Exactly how do you know what I said wasn't the truth, by the way my pastor didn't teach me this truth, God did. I did enjoy your childish rattlings, keep up the childish work it will keep you on the same low level as some others here.

GC

I know it is not the truth because it is a blend of cultural mycths created by iron age goat fuckers and the delusional rattlings of what passes for your brain. Nothing you have ever typed into these fora has any relationship to reality.

Sonny boy, you've been here for only a short time you have no idea what  I've written in the past. It's good to see your childish remarks are still showing your poor ability to communicate. All you said above doesn't say a thing except that you have no idea what you're talking about.

GC