Brainstorm

[SteelCurtain]

Okay, then which religious ideas would you see banned?

[Ivan Denisovich]

That is a very different story than banning "homosexuality is a sin" or "abortionists are going to burn in hell."

Threats of hell are pathetic and funny in a way. But it does not always end on such, as faggots should be gassed also can be heard. Women who wan't abortion also are sometimes threatened with physical violence. One could wonder how much of this is result of church indoctrination, promoted by it Manichean worldview and it's missuses of language which spawn such absurdities like unborn life which is about equaling abortion with murder.

[Excited Penguin]

Religions don't only say that people will be punished in the afterlife, or some such intangible nonsense. Some religious texts promote violence against groups of people in this life. Those religious ideas I would see banned.

[SteelCurtain]

That is a very different story than banning "homosexuality is a sin" or "abortionists are going to burn in hell."

Threats of hell are pathetic and funny in a way. But it does not always end on such, as faggots should be gassed also can be heard. Women who wan't abortion also are sometimes threatened with physical violence. One could wonder how much of this is result of church indoctrination, promoted by it Manichean worldview and it's missuses of language which spawn such absurdities like unborn life which is about equaling abortion with murder.

Those ideas, though, are taken care of by societies. Faggots should be gassed are heard in YouTube comment sections, and from the most marginalized people in society. That's why they're angry.

They're not real threats. Freedom of speech includes the freedom to say truly hateful and disgusting things.

[Excited Penguin]

Also the ones that are demonstrably endagering lives/ limiting freedoms by their very nature. You can't simply say, I read the bible, here it says to stone my children, but I don't actually do that so I'm allowed to talk about that and preach about it. That's my thinking. That should be banned. You can read it, if you ask me, but you're not allowed to indoctrinate other people to think like that. That is in itself incitement to mass violence.

[SteelCurtain]

Religions don't only say that people will be punished in the afterlife, or some such intangible nonsense. Some religious texts promote violence against groups of people in this life. Those religious ideas I would see banned.

Which ones? You're being general, and it seriously belies your point.

[Excited Penguin]

Religions don't only say that people will be punished in the afterlife, or some such intangible nonsense. Some religious texts promote violence against groups of people in this life. Those religious ideas I would see banned.

Which ones? You're being general, and it seriously belies your point.

How am I being general? Do you disagree with that statement?

I am talking about any passages of religious texts that explicitly instruct you to kill and/or oppress other people. If there aren't any, that's great. Are you saying there aren't any? I haven't studied any religions, but my understanding is there's a ton of those.

[Joods]

I think certain religious institutions should be banned as the dangerous hate groups they are.

Thoughts?

I considered that once a while back, but then freedom of thought would be infringed upon. The right to assemble would be infringed upon. Furthermore, there is the issue of what constitutes a dangerous hate group? Many will argue that Isis is Muslim but then, not all Muslims are Isis. So there's that to consider.

I think there are too many variables that would make such a concept impossible.

[Excited Penguin]

I think certain religious institutions should be banned as the dangerous hate groups they are.

Thoughts?

I considered that once a while back, but then freedom of thought would be infringed upon. The right to assemble would be infringed upon. Furthermore, there is the issue of what constitutes a dangerous hate group? Many will argue that Isis is Muslim but then, not all Muslims are Isis. So there's that to consider.

I think there are too many variables that would make such a concept impossible.

This is a very complex issue, and we don't want to mess this up. But something has to be done. We need to talk about it, at the very least. It's a very important topic.

[SteelCurtain]

Nowhere did I say I disagreed or that there weren't hateful ass passages in the Bible.

I'm asking you to provide an example of such a teaching occurring. Otherwise we're just talking about starting a shit storm over something that isn't happening.