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RE: Believers in the afterlife
July 17, 2010 at 1:22 pm
'We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.' H.L. Mencken
'False religion' is the ultimate tautology.
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RE: Believers in the afterlife
July 17, 2010 at 1:59 pm
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: Believers in the afterlife
July 17, 2010 at 5:44 pm
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(July 17, 2010 at 1:59 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Thats assuming the evangelicals are right, could be the mormons!!
As Sam Harris says, Mormonism is less likely to be true, given that it's just Christianity plus some extra stupid beliefs.
'We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.' H.L. Mencken
'False religion' is the ultimate tautology.
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'I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.' Abraham Lincoln
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RE: Believers in the afterlife
July 17, 2010 at 7:50 pm
How do you compare it to Christianity? (Mormon is one religion I don't know too much about)
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RE: Believers in the afterlife
July 17, 2010 at 8:29 pm
With wikipedia.
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RE: Believers in the afterlife
July 22, 2010 at 5:54 am
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RE: Believers in the afterlife
July 22, 2010 at 6:07 am
(July 22, 2010 at 5:54 am)Super Cynic Wrote: Does this mean that, going by the definition that if you can't shake off the irrational fear of eternal punishment, you're not a true atheist, you're not a true atheist yourself? Can someone please clarify?
For all intents and purposes, I am still an atheist. That I say it's irrational demonstrates that I don't actually believe it. It's like someone with OCD: they may repeatedly wash their hands to avert some disaster in their life, but that doesn't mean they actually believe it will avert a disaster; it's just a compulsion, as the name suggests. May I also point out something here. I am not defending the concept of hell in the slightest, and I have great confidence in myself when I say it's load of 'balony'- but the idea of hell, heaven, religon etc is that it can't be proven by science, and, whatever science may say, it cannot disprove an afterlife, god etc. Now while this is obviously a cop-out, going on this basis, your scientific point, while true, may not convince a Christian.
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No, it can't be disproven, but the apparent end of consciousness at death puts the onus very much on the believer to prove that consciousness does continue.
'We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.' H.L. Mencken
'False religion' is the ultimate tautology.
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RE: Believers in the afterlife
July 22, 2010 at 11:50 am
(July 17, 2010 at 9:59 am)Synackaon Wrote: Fear is the mind killer.
^^^
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We are talking about fear of the unkown here aren't we??
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RE: Believers in the afterlife
July 26, 2010 at 1:12 pm
(July 22, 2010 at 11:50 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: (July 17, 2010 at 9:59 am)Synackaon Wrote: Fear is the mind killer.
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We are talking about fear of the unkown here aren't we??
No, he is talking about fear of the Gom Jabbar. It is tipped with a poison that only kills animals you know...
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RE: Believers in the afterlife
July 26, 2010 at 1:21 pm
(July 17, 2010 at 7:50 pm)Nitsuj Wrote: How do you compare it to Christianity? (Mormon is one religion I don't know too much about)
You should look into the mormon beliefs.
if only for a good laugh.
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