Christianity-the most exaggerative religion?

[tackattack]

Christians are given the the great commission (in matthew chapter 28) and it tells us to spread the word, but not how. Those who learn and worship out of fear, teach fear. Those who seek reward, teach to seek reward. Both fall miserably short and are selfserving. The messsage of salvation Jesus brought was a common type of salvation, whom all may partake in and this is commonly missed when attempting to force others into your beliefs instead of simply sharing. THe goal should be that all may share in a Christian's joy with Christ, but often it seems like recruitment when sides are so staunchly entrenched in who's wrong and who's right. Most Christians I know really do care and that's their problem, caring too much. When you care too much about a stranger's well-being (be it in this life or one that follows) there's still a difference between healthy concern and domineering.

[Minimalist]

Pinning the needle, Tack!

[tackattack]

That jpeg didn't get tough my firewall but I'll assume you're putting on your wading boots? Howw can you call BS on what I elieve and was taught being a Christian is? Just because you're jagged and hatefull like the Christians that a lot of atheists come accross, doesn't mean that all (or even the majority) feel anywhere close to that.

[Minimalist]

That jpeg didn't get tough my firewall but I'll assume you're putting on your wading boots? Howw can you call BS on what I elieve and was taught being a Christian is? Just because you're jagged and hatefull like the Christians that a lot of atheists come accross, doesn't mean that all (or even the majority) feel anywhere close to that.

You gave a commercial. On my TV when a commercial comes on I hit the mute button.

Here....I reach for the bullshit detector. But you knew that going in.

[superstarr]

Christians are given the the great commission (in matthew chapter 28) and it tells us to spread the word, but not how. Those who learn and worship out of fear, teach fear. Those who seek reward, teach to seek reward. Both fall miserably short and are selfserving. The messsage of salvation Jesus brought was a common type of salvation, whom all may partake in and this is commonly missed when attempting to force others into your beliefs instead of simply sharing. THe goal should be that all may share in a Christian's joy with Christ, but often it seems like recruitment when sides are so staunchly entrenched in who's wrong and who's right. Most Christians I know really do care and that's their problem, caring too much. When you care too much about a stranger's well-being (be it in this life or one that follows) there's still a difference between healthy concern and domineering.

Lol, that's really the problem with the majority of he Christians. Actually, it's mainly a North America phenomenon where Christians just take things too literally and want envolvement with everyone. Not only that, but they even want to have their book of RELIGION to be taught in public schools. Like how the Creationist movement thinks that it's only fair to teach Creation(from the Bible) as a science along with Evolution. I mean, even normal people know that the Bible is not a science nor a history book. With that, they literally want to revert the country back to its religious foundation, which completely violates the 1st amendment of freedom of religion. It's true that the majority of this country has a belief in a form of Christianity, but it doesn't mean that a majority will cause everyone to believe. I know that sometimes they want to share ideas and that's just whatever, but why would they warn us of armaggeddon if many don't caree or don't take that literally? It's like they are forcefully going to make it happen if it doesn't happen. I have a feeling that they themselves would cause armaggeddon.

[tackattack]

Gave a commercial? I'm not following. Mary Katherine Gallagher wannabe asked for their purpose and I was just sharing why and how some of us crazy Christians do it. A commercial interrupts the main programming, but this is the main programming. I'm not following your commercial comment at all young man

---

Christians are given the the great commission (in matthew chapter 28) and it tells us to spread the word, but not how. Those who learn and worship out of fear, teach fear. Those who seek reward, teach to seek reward. Both fall miserably short and are selfserving. The messsage of salvation Jesus brought was a common type of salvation, whom all may partake in and this is commonly missed when attempting to force others into your beliefs instead of simply sharing. THe goal should be that all may share in a Christian's joy with Christ, but often it seems like recruitment when sides are so staunchly entrenched in who's wrong and who's right. Most Christians I know really do care and that's their problem, caring too much. When you care too much about a stranger's well-being (be it in this life or one that follows) there's still a difference between healthy concern and domineering.

Lol, that's really the problem with the majority of he Christians. Actually, it's mainly a North America phenomenon where Christians just take things too literally and want envolvement with everyone. Not only that, but they even want to have their book of RELIGION to be taught in public schools. Like how the Creationist movement thinks that it's only fair to teach Creation(from the Bible) as a science along with Evolution. I mean, even normal people know that the Bible is not a science nor a history book. With that, they literally want to revert the country back to its religious foundation, which completely violates the 1st amendment of freedom of religion. It's true that the majority of this country has a belief in a form of Christianity, but it doesn't mean that a majority will cause everyone to believe. I know that sometimes they want to share ideas and that's just whatever, but why would they warn us of armaggeddon if many don't caree or don't take that literally? It's like they are forcefully going to make it happen if it doesn't happen. I have a feeling that they themselves would cause armaggeddon.

---

I'm not sure on the numbers but I wouldn't call creationism mainstream Christianity. I've never met a Christian (not claiming to be a creationist) that claim the bible has anything to do with science. A lot of us also have a healthy appreciation for church and state, but the further south you go, the less they seem to care about the constitution. As far as the preaching hell fire and damnation and the reckoning, that's probably a reaction to being dissatified with the world or their life in it's current state and might be a "call to arms" to some. Some people are so fearfull, unsure or unhappy that they want the reckoning to come now, and they are truly sad (but scary) zealots who only serve their own fears and desires. The part of Jesus's message they're seeming to forget is to love thy neighbor and to obey the laws of God and man (not change them to suit your own selfish purposes).

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Christians are given the the great commission (in matthew chapter 28) and it tells us to spread the word, but not how. Those who learn and worship out of fear, teach fear.

Those who seek reward, teach to seek reward


Tacky isn't that perhaps THE great dichotomy of Christianity? The two paths to God; through penance or through love and forgiveness.

The Irish Catholicism I was taught emphasised man's sinful nature,the need for penance and the fear of hell. ( from age 7 )

Passionist priests I've known taught the compassion and forgiveness of God. They taught me God's love is unconditional. That there are no unforgiveable sins.That if sought,forgeness is always given through the infinite compasion of God.

Those views seem very different to me,yet both are quintesentially Christian.

[Minimalist]

The messsage of salvation Jesus brought was a common type of salvation, whom all may partake in and this is commonly missed when attempting to force others into your beliefs instead of simply sharing.

That's a commercial, Tack. And like most commercials you have no evidence to back up your claims.


I don't deal in "belief," remember. I deal in facts. You rely on a long list of con artists to give you this supposed "message."

[superstarr]

I'm not sure on the numbers but I wouldn't call creationism mainstream Christianity. I've never met a Christian (not claiming to be a creationist) that claim the bible has anything to do with science. A lot of us also have a healthy appreciation for church and state, but the further south you go, the less they seem to care about the constitution. As far as the preaching hell fire and damnation and the reckoning, that's probably a reaction to being dissatified with the world or their life in it's current state and might be a "call to arms" to some. Some people are so fearfull, unsure or unhappy that they want the reckoning to come now, and they are truly sad (but scary) zealots who only serve their own fears and desires. The part of Jesus's message they're seeming to forget is to love thy neighbor and to obey the laws of God and man (not change them to suit your own selfish purposes).

I meant those who are involved in the creationist movement, not creationists overall. I don't think that normal peole would even want to do what the creationist movement wants to attempt, but the Creationist movement does have a lot of supporters from the public.

[tackattack]

---

Christians are given the the great commission (in matthew chapter 28) and it tells us to spread the word, but not how. Those who learn and worship out of fear, teach fear.

Those who seek reward, teach to seek reward


Tacky isn't that perhaps THE great dichotomy of Christianity? The two paths to God; through penance or through love and forgiveness.

The Irish Catholicism I was taught emphasised man's sinful nature,the need for penance and the fear of hell. ( from age 7 )

Passionist priests I've known taught the compassion and forgiveness of God. They taught me God's love is unconditional. That there are no unforgiveable sins.That if sought,forgeness is always given through the infinite compasion of God.

Those views seem very different to me,yet both are quintesentially Christian.

---

That's the problem Jesus teaches there is only one path to God, through him. In him stating himself I think his intent was that only though an understanding of God (taught by Jesus and written on the hearts)
can we be saved. Seeking forgiveness is selfish and against the forgiveness already granted through Jesus' sacrifice. It's not about the prize or torment at the end of the road is what I'm saying, It's about accepting a path and walking it and ending up wherever you do, one step at a time. What growth can be done from fear? None, it's stifiling and what is there to fear with God on your side. People who teach out of fear are trying to line their pockets because the masses will accept anything with a threat or promised reward behind it.

The messsage of salvation Jesus brought was a common type of salvation, whom all may partake in and this is commonly missed when attempting to force others into your beliefs instead of simply sharing.

That's a commercial, Tack. And like most commercials you have no evidence to back up your claims.


I don't deal in "belief," remember. I deal in facts. You rely on a long list of con artists to give you this supposed "message."

Do you mean a literal commercial? really, If you did, I don't think I've ever seen it and didn't intend to quote anything. I know you don't deal in goat herder scribblings, hence why I don't even bring them up, despite your arguement from false authority.