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Why the USA is a disgrace
#71
RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
The bottom line is, all countries have a "shit list". Some countries have bigger shit lists than others. Comparing shit lists is difficult if they don't include the same kind of things.

Going back to your original list:

1) Many countries start wars.
2) Many countries have income inequality.
3) Companies in many other countries behave like dicks.
4) Prostitution is illegal in almost every country in the world...

The U.K. has an unelected head of state that has "secret" powers to influence the government or even veto laws.

Australia has a horrendous Internet censorship program.

France bans items of clothing because of religious-based fear.

Those are just a few examples, none of which apply to the US.
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#72
RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
(February 6, 2016 at 1:08 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I know a couple here in our Air Force town. Yes, they are just monsters...

And nevermind it's not the generation I meant. As I said, so thanks for your dishonesty. Noted and appreciated.

There's a reason, you know, why they always invoke WWII. It doesn't look good to invoke Korea, Vietnam or all the later wars. And they (you?) know it.
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#73
RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
(February 6, 2016 at 3:06 am)Aractus Wrote:
(February 5, 2016 at 11:33 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Sorry. The U.S. of A does some shitty things.  But mostly we're just a Western nation with greater power to enforce our idiocies. I don't think Australia would do anything better.

No, I'm sorry, but Australians wouldn't want to enforce their idiocies. We don't have groups trying to violently ban abortion, for example. Trialling minors as adults, practising the death penalty, criminalising prostitution - are you really saying that's "equal"?? Those are horrific abuses of civil liberties. As is disconnecting people's internet because the MPAA says so.

Now we have PayPal banning VPNs, and freezing their money.


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Nice. "As a result your account has been permanently limited and this cannot be appealed". Where is the goddamn regulation that would prevent this kind of abuse? Paypal is now an essential payment facility - that is that if you ban a VPN service's PP account, not only can they not receive PP payments from customer, but they also can't pay their bills (e.g. for servers) through PP and many data-centres and other online companies only accept Paypal. Do you reckon they'll freeze Softlayer's account as well for providing VPNs? That'd be interesting. They already removed Mega's account.

Methinks I know what this thread is really about. And it's personal.
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#74
RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
Australia still hasn't approved Gay Marriage.

The US is as religious as fuck, but we still have legal gay marriage. And we call it marriage.
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#75
RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
(February 6, 2016 at 1:15 pm)abaris Wrote:
(February 6, 2016 at 1:08 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I know a couple here in our Air Force town. Yes, they are just monsters...

And nevermind it's not the generation I meant. As I said, so thanks for your dishonesty. Noted and appreciated.

There's a reason, you know, why they always invoke WWII. It doesn't look good to invoke Korea, Vietnam or all the later wars. And they (you?) know it.

Honestly I don't know why WWII gets invoked other then our enemy. The US committed far more war crimes in WWII then in Vietnam.
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#76
RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
Life is too short to be this much of a dick.
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#77
RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
(February 6, 2016 at 1:18 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Honestly I don't know why WWII gets invoked other then our enemy. The US committed far more war crimes in WWII then in Vietnam.

I wouldn't think so. Apart from shooting POWs, which every side did, the only thing coming to mind would be the bomb. Their bombing raids, as opposed to the british, were at least aimed at the industry. The outspoken british strategy was to bomb the workers.

So, no, I wouldn't think the US did worse than in Vietnam.
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#78
RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
(February 6, 2016 at 1:15 pm)abaris Wrote:
(February 6, 2016 at 1:08 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I know a couple here in our Air Force town. Yes, they are just monsters...

And nevermind it's not the generation I meant. As I said, so thanks for your dishonesty. Noted and appreciated.

There's a reason, you know, why they always invoke WWII. It doesn't look good to invoke Korea, Vietnam or all the later wars. And they (you?) know it.

Oh so you're referring to "old white republican men" only between certain ages of "old". I see. 

And veterans from Korea and Vietnam got bullied and crapped on right when they got back home from war. There's no reason I should expect ya'll not to continue to throw crap their way now. Figured you would perhaps have more respect for WWII vets, but I guess not.
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#79
RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
(February 6, 2016 at 1:18 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(February 6, 2016 at 1:15 pm)abaris Wrote: And nevermind it's not the generation I meant. As I said, so thanks for your dishonesty. Noted and appreciated.

There's a reason, you know, why they always invoke WWII. It doesn't look good to invoke Korea, Vietnam or all the later wars. And they (you?) know it.

Honestly I don't know why WWII gets invoked other then our enemy. The US committed far more war crimes in WWII then in Vietnam.

The only real war crime is starting a war.  Anything after that virtually amounts to bouncing the rubble.  And with WWII we were definitely not guilty of starting it.
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#80
RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
(February 6, 2016 at 1:24 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: And veterans from Korea and Vietnam got bullied and crapped on right when they got back home from war. There's no reason I should expect ya'll not to continue to throw crap their way now. Figured you would perhaps have more respect for WWII vets, but I guess not.

You're really that dense? Oh, I see, you have to defend military interventions at all costs, since your living in a military environment. War is peace, am I right?

Nevermind that Korea and Vietnam weren't exactly undisputed. Nevermind that a great many being drafted to either war turned pacifist or damaged goods. Nevermind all the protests going on at the same time. No, it has to be the John Wayne approach of war being something like riding into the sunset. Which is, by the way, exactly what I mean. The John Wayne types of being all for picking up arms without ever having seen a frontline or held a real weapon.

Thankfully, as I said, a dying out breed.
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