No Allah, Why?

[Xinharmonisi]

I did write all these, and to be wrong grammer and vocabulary. I'm sorry.

We know presence of Allah in the Quran. So, There is not proof from in the Qran.

All right:

1- How can we know whether the writer of Quran is Allah or not?

2- There are wrong information and paradox sentence in the Quran, then, is Allah ignorant a god?

3- There is expression disorder in the Quran, we can't ignore that.

4- Quran be in contradiction with modern science and philosophy...

5- Allah is angry, scream, get angry... and how is he a god?

6- Allah threaten people. Allah say that ''believe me or i punish you in hell''

7- Allah scare to people with hell and so, he(Allah) want that you belive his.

İf you think these, you understand that there is no Allah!

[Paul the Human]

The bible(s), just like the Qur'an, are also unable to stand up to scrutiny. Reading one or more of the 'holy books' from cover to cover is often the first step to becoming atheistic. Someone that has allowed themselves to become brainwashed into believing one or more of these books would simply tell you that you are misinterpreting what the book is actually saying. They are blind to the truth, because they have been taught how to ignore it.

Take mo3 as an example. Every time something is pointed out to him he says something like, "you must read the verse before and after to understand"... as if you hadn't done that and as if those other verses change the meaning of the quoted verse in some way. When someone is determined to believe something, the level of self-delusion they can be capable of is simply astounding. Look at Godhead.

[Minimalist]

The bible(s), just like the Qur'an, are also unable to stand up to scrutiny.

Which is why, when given the power, religions kill people who scrutinize their holy books. Muslims need to take back their lives from the imams. Until they do so they will be indistinguishable from the xtians in the preceding centuries.

[annatar]

The bible(s), just like the Qur'an, are also unable to stand up to scrutiny.

all religions are same when you look at certain aspects. You see all are created to control people with the fear of the unknown. You all know the god of gaps. no need to mention.
But quran is the most successful religion when it comes to control people. It has many conflicts and full of vague verses that can mean almost anything. And quran always gives instructions. That is the main reason of why people believe in islam. people usually like instructions when they are in doubt.And quran spesifically instructs people how they will go to heaven.

and welcome Xinharmonisi its good to see a fellow countryman in this forum
selamlar

[Xinharmonisi]

and welcome Xinharmonisi its good to see a fellow countryman in this forum
selamlar

Thanks Annatar. Yes, i did think me as your : ) ( Selamlar azizim.)

[mo3taz3nbar]

1- How can we know whether the writer of Quran is Allah or not?

by using logic and reason and reading the Quran with objectivity

2- There are wrong information and paradox sentence in the Quran, then, is Allah ignorant a god?

wrong.prove it

3- There is expression disorder in the Quran, we can't ignore that.

its really strange from you to say that when the arab themselves that was great in the language and expressions didnt say that but they said that he is using jinn to help him write what he was writing as no one of them was able to get even one chapter that is literally perfect like the Quran

4- Quran be in contradiction with modern science and philosophy...

wrong again and am willing to discuss this in details if you are interested

5- Allah is angry, scream, get angry... and how is he a god?

6- Allah threaten people. Allah say that ''believe me or i punish you in hell''

7- Allah scare to people with hell and so, he(Allah) want that you belive his.

Allah is not angry and telling people what will be the results of there actions is really fair and just especially when he guides you in the Quran what to do so you can be in paradise not in hell and also god tells you that he will not punish you for the things you cant do or the mistakes you do with no bad intentions and he will forgive you if you just repent and ask for forgivness.i dont know what you want more than that?tell me what you think will be better than this if god tells us that whatever we do we are all going to have a tea party after death is that what you are waiting for?

some of your claims need deep knowledge and understanding of the Quran and also objectivity.if you want to discuss any point in details you can open a new thread about it as it can take a while and am willing to discuss with you any point in details

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Take mo3 as an example. Every time something is pointed out to him he says something like, "you must read the verse before and after to understand"... as if you hadn't done that and as if those other verses change the meaning of the quoted verse in some way. When someone is determined to believe something, the level of self-delusion they can be capable of is simply astounding. Look at Godhead.

because cutting from text is really ignorant and can get you whatever meaning you want to understand so when reading the context you can understand what the verse you cut from the context is talking about and why. imagining that everyone that believe in something that you dont want to believe in is having delusions is not a good thing this will make you dont understand any other opinion of others unless its the same as yours once anyone have reasons for his beliefs you cant say he is having delusions

[Ashendant]

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4- Quran be in contradiction with modern science and philosophy...

wrong again and am willing to discuss this in details if you are interested

5- Allah is angry, scream, get angry... and how is he a god?

Except there was a film on youtube that showed contradiction, when asked the same question they answered both yes and no