How are Dark Mtter and Consciousness different from Spirit?

[robvalue]

So you tell him how it should work, and he tells you that's not how it works

[Alex K]

So you tell him how it should work, and he tells you that's not how it works

We're basically like, ok, all we ask you guys to do is collide protons with real high energy to prove our pet theory, why is this taking so long again?

[robvalue]

And they're like, fifty million quid then please.

Regarding spirits/souls/whatever, it gets a bit confusing regarding those split brain patients. I remember the case where a guy had his two halves of his brain independent. One was an atheist, and one a theist. (Yes, I'm serious, if you've not heard this before.)

Does each half have a spirit? Did the spirit get cut in half?

[Alex K]

And they're like, fifty million quid then please.

You wish. These machines cost upwards of 5 billion.

[Rhondazvous]

Just as quantum physics revealed a reality that required scientists to abandon the assumptions they had built around classical mechanics, yet after taking a couple aspirin, they did not shy away from it.

A few pages back you mentioned that dark matter may not have enough mass to be detectable by current technology.  Is there no connection between mass and gravity? How can low mass particles provide enough gravity to hold galaxies together?

NO, QM does not say everything is possible by default. Again, you keep failing to understand that dark matter was not presumed as a starting point, it was discovered through prior data collecting.

And even QM is also built upon prior scientific method.

You don't presume a naked assertion then work to fish for excuses, that's not what QM does, that is not how any scientific method works.

When QM says "forget what you know" it is looking to the future, it is not clinging to the past. It is saying keep an open mind about the future, it is not saying cling to crap from the past. No scientific field tells you to hold on to junk. 

Theists, and I have seen every major label pull this bad tactic. When they cant debunk science outright, they try to use science retroactively. I've seen Christians and Muslims and Hindus pull this, trying to use "second law of thermodynamics" and even QM to point to their particular theism. 

No, there isn't even a si fi version of this, and even si fi fans fail trying to pull this too.

QM does not say "anything goes" as a starting position based on a naked assertion.

Allah exists because QM says anything goes.
Vishnu exists because QM says anything goes.
Invisible pink unicorns exist because QM says anything goes.
The Tribbles from Star Trek exist  because QM says anything goes.

You don't start with a naked assertion then plug it into a scientific formula. You have to have something established based on prior and repeatedly tested and falsified and peer reviewed data.

QM does not equal "If ifs and butts are candy and nuts".

The only thing QM tells us is there is lots we have yet to learn, it does not say every naked assertion made in the past can be plugged into it.

Peace!

Where did I say QM says everything is possible by default? If I said something that you interpreted to mean that let me state I never insinuated any such thing.

[Rhondazvous]

are all neutrinos hot dark matter or just some?

If hdm is made up of something we can detect, then it's not unreasonable to suspect that cdm is too. Whish is what you guys have been saying. Yikes.

There are probably some that are low Energy enough to classify as cold... the exact masses of all three neutrinos are not yet known either, but they must be all very light, and most processes where they are created give them lots of energy and they move at close to the speed of light. Hot btw means just a few degrees above absolute zero in this case

I understand what you are saying. It doesn’t quite answer my first question. Are all neutrinos dark matter/ basically I’m trying to understand the relationship between neutrinos and dark matter. After you told me that neutrinos are involved in transforming positrons into electrons I found this connection between neutrons and dark matter. If you address this question I think I will grasp the concept.

[Rhondazvous]

It's officially recognized. It has gone down in history that Alex K is the resident genius in particle physics at AF.

Since it's my job, I should know something about it, right... Who's a genius, now that's a different story

A Different story? So should I write a story about how you’re a genius? How shall I begin?

Andy Williams asks where do I begin to tell the story that is smarter than the sea
The true brain story of the knowledge he gave to me?
Where do I start?

[Alex K]

All the neutrinos that have been floating around in space since shortly after the big bang are counted as a part of dark matter because they had an influence on cosmic expansion. The ones that are being produced by nuclear reactions in stars ever since are a bit different and more subtle in that they only appeared later and have much higher energy.

[Cyberman]

And they're like, fifty million quid then please.

You wish. These machines cost upwards of 5 billion.

He was quoting you the robvalue, I think.

[Rhondazvous]

All the neutrinos that have been floating around in space since shortly after the big bang  are counted as a part of dark matter because they had an influence on cosmic expansion. The ones that are being produced by nuclear reactions in stars ever since are a bit different and more subtle in that they only appeared later and have much higher energy.

What is the name of the device/tele/microscope that allows us to see microscopic particles from millions of miles away? Also, are you saying that the part of dark matter that is made up of neutrinos is electromagnetically detectable? If not, how do we detect it?