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RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 17, 2016 at 3:00 pm
(This post was last modified: February 17, 2016 at 3:01 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(February 17, 2016 at 2:15 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: And I say you don't need guns, specifically, to handle the vast majority of the situations. Arming teachers with guns is simply stupid with non-lethal methods are available.
OFC, arming teachers is stupid regardless of whether or not non-lethal means are available.
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RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 17, 2016 at 3:07 pm
(February 17, 2016 at 3:00 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (February 17, 2016 at 2:15 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: And I say you don't need guns, specifically, to handle the vast majority of the situations. Arming teachers with guns is simply stupid with non-lethal methods are available.
OFC, arming teachers is stupid regardless of whether or not non-lethal means are available.
Yep, but I'm sure Mrs. Llewellyn, my 8th grade English teacher would have Rambo'd with the best of them, despite getting woozy when there was a picture of a gun in a book.
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RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 17, 2016 at 3:12 pm
(February 17, 2016 at 2:15 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: And I say you don't need guns, specifically, to handle the vast majority of the situations. Arming teachers with guns is simply stupid with non-lethal methods are available.
Weakness of wit leads to fear, and fear leads to anger. Then anger leads to the posting of ridiculous strawman arguments.
There are no teachers bringing guns into schools, but there are now out of necessity some armed police marshalls, and more of them know how to behave around children than not.
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RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 17, 2016 at 3:15 pm
(February 17, 2016 at 3:12 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: (February 17, 2016 at 2:15 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: And I say you don't need guns, specifically, to handle the vast majority of the situations. Arming teachers with guns is simply stupid with non-lethal methods are available.
Weakness of wit leads to fear, and fear leads to anger. Then anger leads to the posting of ridiculous strawman arguments.
There are no teachers bringing guns into schools, but there are now out of necessity some armed police marshalls, and more of them know how to behave around children than not. I'm glad you saw what he did, but I'm not glad you didn't see it when you did it as well in the past...
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RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 17, 2016 at 3:24 pm
(February 17, 2016 at 3:15 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: (February 17, 2016 at 3:12 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: Weakness of wit leads to fear, and fear leads to anger. Then anger leads to the posting of ridiculous strawman arguments.
There are no teachers bringing guns into schools, but there are now out of necessity some armed police marshalls, and more of them know how to behave around children than not. I'm glad you saw what he did, but I'm not glad you didn't see it when you did it as well in the past...
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There are people advocating teachers pack guns in schools. At least one state has a program going on that right now. It's not a strawman argument, it's people not paying attention.
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RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 17, 2016 at 3:26 pm
Guns are bordered on all sides, politically,by nutballs and crooks. Business as usual really.
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RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 17, 2016 at 3:28 pm
(February 17, 2016 at 3:24 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: (February 17, 2016 at 3:15 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: I'm glad you saw what he did, but I'm not glad you didn't see it when you did it as well in the past...
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There are people advocating teachers pack guns in schools. At least one state has a program going on that right now. It's not a strawman argument, it's people not paying attention.
It's a strawman because we weren't talking about that, yet you made it as if I did.
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RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 17, 2016 at 3:35 pm
(February 17, 2016 at 3:28 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: (February 17, 2016 at 3:24 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: There are people advocating teachers pack guns in schools. At least one state has a program going on that right now. It's not a strawman argument, it's people not paying attention.
It's a strawman because we weren't talking about that, yet you made it as if I did.
I was talking about it. You replied to my posts. It's not a strawman when you don't read what you're responding to.
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RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 17, 2016 at 3:37 pm
(February 17, 2016 at 3:35 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: (February 17, 2016 at 3:28 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: It's a strawman because we weren't talking about that, yet you made it as if I did.
I was talking about it. You replied to my posts. It's not a strawman when you don't read what you're responding to.
I replied to one of your posts and then a debate ensued from there. I'm not supposed to read everything you ever posted in your entire life prior to having a discussion with you. You remain on topic on what we're debating. If I'm not bringing up the teachers, you don't just start talking about them out of the blue. What the fuck?
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RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 17, 2016 at 3:39 pm
(This post was last modified: February 17, 2016 at 3:42 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
So, perhaps this is where two sides of a debate meet? Pro gun, anti gun, we both agree that arming teachers is a phenomenally stupid idea. My guess, is that it comes from people who have -alot- invested into phenomenally stupid ideas.
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