David Icke

[Godhead]

Paul -

Yes.

[Paul the Human]

Mmhmm. And do you care to share these reasons to believe that the color turquoise (or purple) is a conduit for positive energies? And while you're at it, maybe you could explain what you imagine 'positive energies' are.

[Godhead]

Paul -

My reason to believe that colours are connected to energy is that I feel that that's how it is. I believe that positive energy is is energy which is positive.

[chatpilot]

I was quite surprised when I logged in and saw a thread about David Icke lmfao. I shamefully read a book or two by him and I agree with most of my peers on this site, this man is fucking nuts beyond belief. According to him anyone and everyone that holds a position of power is either an alien lizard in disguise reminiscent of the movie 'They live' a great movie by the way starring the wrestler Roddy Piper or being controlled by said aliens. This thread should not be posted in the politics and history forums but rather in its own category of mentally unstable authors.

[Paul the Human]

@Godhead: I see. So the answer is actually no, you don't have any coherent or convincing reasons to believe that. At least, not beyond your own imagination and desire for the claim to be true. The "I like this idea, so I believe it" method. Nothing irrational about that.

[Godhead]

Paul -

It's perfectly rational and convincing, and coherent.

[Darwinian]

Paul -

It's perfectly rational and convincing, and coherent.

It may be personally satisfying but there is nothing rational in stating that because you like the idea of something being true therefore you will believe it's true.

I like the idea of having Q like omnipotence and sorting out the worlds problems and possibly terraforming Mars and giving it to the Lemurs but I don't actually believe I have or can.

[The Omnissiunt One]

It may be personally satisfying but there is nothing rational in stating that because you like the idea of something being true therefore you will believe it's true.

I like the idea of having Q like omnipotence and sorting out the worlds problems and possibly terraforming Mars and giving it to the Lemurs but I don't actually believe I have or can.

Sounds pretty reasonable to me, Darwinian. Now you're not going to put me through some bizarre test like you did with Captain Picard, are you?

(What do I win for the Star Trek reference?)

[Tiberius]

It's perfectly rational and convincing, and coherent.

It's really not rational and convincing. Even if you claim it's "just a belief", the reasons for believing the belief are completely irrational, hence there is no reason to believe.

There are many things we like that are simply not true (by that I mean non-existent). I'd quite like to have a teleporter, but they don't exist. Me liking an idea (in this case a teleporter) does nothing to affect the existence of said teleporter, and so there is no logical reason to believe it does exist. Indeed, the only way liking an idea can affect the physical manifestation of the idea is if someone gets off their arse and does something about it.

So your logic is fallacious, and so your mantra of "I like it so I believe it" is irrational, and in being irrational, is unconvincing to the rational mind.

You are right on one thing though; it is coherent, but being coherent has nothing to do with being rational or convincing.

[Darwinian]

Sounds pretty reasonable to me, Darwinian. Now you're not going to put me through some bizarre test like you did with Captain Picard, are you?

(What do I win for the Star Trek reference?)

When I get my membership to the continuum I'll put in a good word for you as well