My views on objective morality

[God of Mr. Hanky]

But she doesn't need rescuing because she is a woman.  She needs support because she is seriously out nunbered as a believer here.  I came to her support because she asked me to.  She was feeling overwhelmed by the negativity and didn't feel anything she could say while still be true to herself would help.  I'm not the only one she asked, nor is she the only one I've ever supported when asked.

Then in that case you should help her with her arguments, and argue against atheism. If you want to support her, then support her ideas, but don't make her exempt to being corrected on them. We'll try and do so as gently as possible, as LFC and I were trying to yesterday (exasperated as we were becoming).

So we have a negative attitude toward her beliefs, well that's really too bad - she should either deal with that, or she doesn't belong here. She's a fun person when her beliefs don't get in the way, but when you're a theist and you're here, you should expect to feel the heat. What you and the other defenders (who regard as a few steps beneath your intelligence after the past few days) have accomplished is the creation of a sort of goddess who nobody can touch, no matter what she says.

[Whateverist]

I understand completely for some its black people for others its homosexuals. For you guys its just believers. Haters got to hate.

[LadyForCamus]

Hmmm...the word "cuntmuffin" comes to mind. [emoji13]  But in your defense, I'm fairly certain he deserved it.

I make change in the coin tendered. I prefer courteous discussion, but let's face it: I'm an asshole, at times....But I don't answer rudeness with courtesy; I don't reward behavior I don't like and won't take.

Oh, I know Thump. I was just looking for an excuse to use the word "cuntmuffin" again. I told you I was going to keep it up my sleeve for use at a later time! [emoji39]

[God of Mr. Hanky]

That's true, you didn't in fact call the actuality of her femininity into question at all

Bullshit he didn't. He used "she/he" and "her/him" instead of just "she" and "her" at least twice in his post. There's literally no reason to do that if you have accepted the notion that she is a woman. It was a subtle dick move, but a dick move nonetheless. He then tried to "shame" her defenders by claiming that the only reason they are kind to her is because she has "big jugs". That's not only a wildly inaccurate assertion, but it's disgustingly inappropriate.

Sorry, guess I overlooked something. I'm not contradicting you, I read it only once and I didn't remember it all. That shit about her "jugs" distracted my attention, and I just couldn't believe what I was seeing, although I don't know if that broke any rules.

[God of Mr. Hanky]

Justice doesn't matter here? Good, then in that case we don't need any mods!

Honest to serious fuck, if we didn't take the injustices of religion very seriously, then we'd all be somewhere discussing Justin Bieber, or at a book club.

It's like you're responding to different posts than the ones you're quoting. Posts that say what you'd like to imagine the person would have said so you can be outraged about it.

It was a joke, Captain Pompousass!

[God of Mr. Hanky]

As atheists, some of us are much better at creating strawmen than the theists - CL was NOT being beaten, so knock it off with that bullshit already, Green Lightbulb! Just because it's ugly and somebody is crying doesn't mean there's a good reason for it, and we were just trying to make her understand why one like Rythm would say what really was a bit harsh, although in a very important way true.

I know you protest your innocence. I still call 'em like I see 'em.

No, Green Ghoulface, I do not protest my innocence. I'm not on trial for anything, and and I sure as fuck am not answerable to you!

[God of Mr. Hanky]

I understand completely for some its black people for others its homosexuals.  For you guys its just believers.  Haters got to hate.

Strawmen, you too are good at shitting out, Whateverist! If you don't have a negative attitude toward theistic beliefs too, then I have to ask what are you here for as an atheist (or for that matter, how can you even be an atheist)? I don't hate CL, nor do I hate anyone just for sharing her beliefs or similar beliefs. But she opened up a can of worms by starting this thread with her OP, and we were entitled to respond as we saw it.

Seriously, you really aren't doing CL, nor this forum any good by protecting her against criticism when she has it coming!

[God of Mr. Hanky]

Agreed, my tone was off, and I've apologised multiple times in public and by PM. I made maybe 3 posts which could have been more tactfully put.

I know you have, Rob, and I didn't like having to drag it out again, but Ryant seemed to still think it was me, and probably LFC.

[Whateverist]

I understand completely for some its black people for others its homosexuals.  For you guys its just believers.  Haters got to hate.

Strawmen, you too are good at shitting out, Whateverist! If you don't have a negative attitude toward theistic beliefs too, then I have to ask what are you here for as an atheist (or for that matter, how can you even be an atheist)? I don't hate CL, nor do I hate anyone just for sharing her beliefs or similar beliefs. But she opened up a can of worms by starting this thread with her OP, and we were entitled to respond as we saw it.

Seriously, you really aren't doing CL, nor this forum any good by protecting her against criticism when she has it coming!

I'm not a nothing-but atheist but I don't believe in an external god, much less an omni-anything god.  In my own thinking I don't make any use of the notion of a god but I'm flexible enough in my thinking to attach meaning to such a notion and give the bible an interesting allegorical reading as well.

You seem to think we are in some drastic war with a zombie horde intent on bringing down civilization.  I don't count myself as part of any community which thinks this way.  Lets just say that being an atheist is a very, very provisional thing for me entirely dependent upon the definition of 'god' .. and just way down on the list of attributes I think define me.

[brewer]

Personally, I'd like to see this thread die on the vine. I see little productive here being accomplished.