Why it's important to know there is an objective morality.

[bennyboy]

The selfless conscience?  That just -might- be a contradiction in terms......

I've been observing your actions and writings since you joined, care to guess as to whether or not the things you say line up with what I know to be true on -any- level?

I am sorta curious since you asked.[SMILING FACE WITH SMILING EYES]

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

The monkey flies at midnight!

[Thumpalumpacus]

Love is felt differently from person to person. Would you say therefore that it's not real?

Simply because something is relative doesn't mean it is unreal. Non sequitur.

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

Hehe, yeah.

Well, that's the other thing. I often I get told I already have my morals from God. So I'm set, right? Why do I need to listen to other people and their subjective interpretations of books and such when I'm already infused with God morals? They'll just distract me.

And apparently I get it all without having to join any religion or worship. Handy.

God works in mysterious ways rob

[Chas]

Evolution is a guided system. It is guided by the will of life to continue. To say it is random or not at least both a cause and an effect is being closed minded due to bias for whatever reason, and has absolutely no evidence to back it.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

Evolution is neither guided nor random.  Mutations are largely random, but evolution is algorithmic.

Given imperfect replication and differential reproductive success, evolution is certain.

But that does not give evolution a direction or a goal.

[bennyboy]

Love is felt differently from person to person. Would you say therefore that it's not real?

Simply because something is relative doesn't mean it is unreal. Non sequitur.

To whom is this addressed?  Maybe you should quote something, or at least say who you're talking to?

[popsthebuilder]

Evolution is a guided system. It is guided by the will of life to continue. To say it is random or not at least both a cause and an effect is being closed minded due to bias for whatever reason, and has absolutely no evidence to back it.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

Evolution is neither guided nor random.  Mutations are largely random, but evolution is algorithmic.

Given imperfect replication and differential reproductive success, evolution is certain.

But that does not give evolution a direction or a goal.

Yeah, I don't see how reproduction could give evolution a goal either.

I can't make heads or tails of what it is you are trying to say.

I agree that evolution seems like a certainty. And all things that are, are indeed caused by some other thing. Many, such as evolution are subsequently causal as well.

How have you been? Well I hope.[SMILING FACE WITH SMILING EYES]

Peace

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Love is felt differently from person to person. Would you say therefore that it's not real?

Simply because something is relative doesn't mean it is unreal. Non sequitur.

To whom is this addressed?  Maybe you should quote something, or at least say who you're talking to?

My apologies. That is directed at MK.

[Phosphorescent Panties]

No, there is no such thing as objective morality. Morality is an idea that was invented by human beings, so is good and evil etc. There's simply rules that you can give yourself, which is basically be egalitarian, be sensitive to others, these are not hard things to figure out. There are clear boundaries between what hurts human beings and what does not, maybe not always so clear. Point is, who comes up with this objective right or wrong? No one, such a thing doesn't exist, every person and every society's values differ at least a little. Just like religion is splintered into different factions, because there is no one "true religion". 

And there doesn't need to be absolute morality, regardless of the fact that there is none. Just don't hurt other people, if you have the capacity to feel empathy. If you don't, then you're probably a sociopath or a psychopath, which in itself isn't a bad thing. Human beings themselves are neither good nor bad, we're just parts of the universe operating on the same laws governing everything else in the universe. We don't call a rock good or bad, or call the rock a bad rock if it falls on someone's head and kills them. No, we just accept that some fundamental physical laws played out and caused a sequence of unfortunate events. The same thing applies to humans.

It's not hard to see that taking care of yourself and being nice to other people causes a positive outcome. What is up for debate, is what is good or bad for human beings. That is where philosophy comes in and the endless grey area that surrounds so many problems. There also can't be absolute morality because if there was, so many moral issues wouldn't be so complex and have no simple philosophical moral answer. The universe does not work like that and there is no absolute morality.

[Heat]

If there is an objective morality it wouldn't need to be explained so as to enlighten humans to what they should go about their day thinking is morally correct, they would just know it.

In other words, if there was an objective morality we wouldn't need you here to explain to us what it is.

[robvalue]

I have often wondered who it is aimed at. I can only think psycopaths, the ones God "forgot" to give empathy to.

If it's "written in our hearts" and all that, why do we also need it written in a book and be told it by loads of people?

And why don't they agree...?