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After 8 years of selling fear GOP wants "civil"?
#21
RE: After 8 years of selling fear GOP wants "civil"?
(March 13, 2016 at 1:55 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(March 12, 2016 at 11:06 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Do you remember the Czech who was our SoS?
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/edit...story.html

https://www.equalitytrust.org.uk/why-more-equality

So?  I cant get into the first one....don't do fucking facebook.

As for the second....the republicunts have been working to expand inequality since Reagan.  They are well on their way to attaining their goal.  Which is "more for them and fuck you."
Reagan did more to encourage the outsourcing of jobs and companies than anyone.  It has screwed the homies but helped the foreigners, which is what the discussion is about.
http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Ronald_..._Trade.htm
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#22
RE: After 8 years of selling fear GOP wants "civil"?
(March 13, 2016 at 3:41 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(March 13, 2016 at 1:55 pm)Minimalist Wrote: So?  I cant get into the first one....don't do fucking facebook.

As for the second....the republicunts have been working to expand inequality since Reagan.  They are well on their way to attaining their goal.  Which is "more for them and fuck you."
Reagan did more to encourage the outsourcing of jobs and companies than anyone.  It has screwed the homies but helped the foreigners, which is what the discussion is about.
http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Ronald_..._Trade.htm

No, outsourcing does not help other countries, they don't do anything to create livable wages overseas either. It is all global shell game designed to promote cheap labor. Creating more jobs overseas does not mean those jobs meet their cost of living ratio either. It simply gives global corporatism more options for cheap labor.
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#23
RE: After 8 years of selling fear GOP wants "civil"?
Cites 30 years of exploding pay gap, ignores that a Democrat has been President for 16 of last 30. Same amount of time with Senate majority (two Congresses with a Democrat President and majority in both houses). Not just the GOP.
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#24
RE: After 8 years of selling fear GOP wants "civil"?
80 to 88 Reagan 8 years

88 to 92 Bush Sr

12 years so far for republicans

8 years Clinton

8 years Bush Jr

8 years for Obama

So it only has been 16 Dem and 20 republican since Reagan.

You are playing word games with me, Reagan was in office 30 years ago, ok so I should have said what 40? Reagan started this shit. And between presidents Republicans made it worse, and Clinton and Obama slowed down the bleeding and even Clinton left us with a Surplus.

Oh and would you look at this, while it has been more evenly split since Reagan, look at who held the most power prior to Reagan and that was BEFORE Reagan's deregulation. Now again, it isn't that dems don't want to do anything, but they have been held hostage by the GOP.

http://wiredpen.com/resources/political-...residency/
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RE: After 8 years of selling fear GOP wants "civil"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta...Senate.png
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RE: After 8 years of selling fear GOP wants "civil"?
(March 13, 2016 at 6:19 pm)Brian37 Wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta...Senate.png

Seems since Reagan dems have only been able to slow down the bleeding. But since 97 the GOP slowly gained more power and went hog wild under Bush. And nobody can accuse Obama of being on the same side. Again, our politicians have simply been held hostage.
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#27
RE: After 8 years of selling fear GOP wants "civil"?
(March 13, 2016 at 6:25 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(March 13, 2016 at 6:19 pm)Brian37 Wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta...Senate.png

Seems since Reagan dems have only been able to slow down the bleeding. But since 97 the GOP slowly gained more power and went hog wild under Bush. And nobody can accuse Obama of being on the same side. Again, our politicians have simply been held hostage.

And look who had control before the great depression and look at how much red there was that caused the great recession. And look at all that blue between WW2 and Reagan.
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#28
RE: After 8 years of selling fear GOP wants "civil"?
Brian criticizing Trump for saying fuck on twitter and then proceeds to say it 30 times in his post. lol. Who cares if a president curses. I care about how they would run the country. Also what is comparing a politician to Hitler if it's not fear mongering? You guys are constantly on here fear mongering, saying that terrible terrible things will happen if so and so is elected (Trump in this case, but if Cruz is the candidate you guys will be fear mongering about him)

This is the only important failing of Trump as far as I'm concerned: he would be a terrible president.
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#29
RE: After 8 years of selling fear GOP wants "civil"?
(March 13, 2016 at 7:03 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Brian criticizing Trump for saying fuck on twitter and then proceeds to say it 30 times in his post. lol. Who cares if a president curses. I care about how they would run the country. Also what is comparing a politician to Hitler if it's not fear mongering? You guys are constantly on here fear mongering, saying that terrible terrible things will happen if so and so is elected (Trump in this case, but if Cruz is the candidate you guys will be fear mongering about him)

This is the only important failing of Trump as far as I'm concerned: he would be a terrible president.

No again, don't try to equate his roll and mine as being two sides of the same coin. 

1. He is in position of power, he isn't a no name like me. 

2. I am not running for office, he is. 

3. And cussing out the bigot, which is what he is, is not the same as being the bigot.

Blasphemy and even cussing are part of living in a free society. The ability to offend celebrity and politicians and religion are what separates us from theocracies and one party states like North Korea. 

Our politicians are not private citizens when running for office or in office. At that point they not just representing those they are trying to get votes from, they are being seen by the entire world, and when in office they don't just represent the people that voted for them, they are there to defend the constitution we all live under. 

Offensive speech IS, as it should be, protected by law. But it is a completely different standard for a politician, and part of what you say that would make him a horrible president, would be the damage he has caused himself while running, the world would not take him seriously the way he behaves nor could he be trusted not to do it when in office, which he wont be.

It is up to the private media to be the provokers and blasphemers and offenders, but the public trust of all public offices, from police officer, to judge, to state and congressional office to the White House, is a different roll and are there to defend the idea of protecting free speech while protecting the idea of peaceful transfer of power. 

Do not equate me to him. He is a fucking asshole, and a bigot, and he has no business being even a dog catcher.
What is different is that he is no longer a mere entertainer like Jerry Springer or Howard Stern. He is running for public office in a trust that should maintain the attitude of peaceful transfer of power.
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