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March 15, 2016 at 5:00 pm (This post was last modified: March 15, 2016 at 5:01 pm by IATIA.)
(March 15, 2016 at 4:13 pm)Alex K Wrote: He didn't respond when I pointed it out either... maybe he requires there to be three witnesses?
A "trinity' of witnesses?
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
March 15, 2016 at 6:05 pm (This post was last modified: March 15, 2016 at 6:06 pm by WinterHold.)
Rhythm
I'm sorry, but if I noticed that a definition doesnt fit reality, I must object and criticize, that's exactly what you do in the context of your "anti-theism".
Chad32
Needing our mothers since the moment we are born acts as a counter argument here.
In terms of defining worship, the "master/slave" relationship is very unique in its definition and at many time; we can not avoid projecting it on what we experience, think like the brain and our members: that's a relationship that cannot be described with something other than a "master/slave" relation, a simple validation can tell a lot about the person stands.
Alex K
It is not about the function. It was always about who gave you the means to "survive" these functions; or let's say:who gave us the fuel?
The mandatory state in which our bodies work in, is slavery. We are prisonors of this flesh and bone.
You got it all wrong.
robvalue
Your heart is begging for our God's mercy when it asks you to breath clean air, your throat bows so you seek the blessing of our God, even if you never admitted it, it is real.. And life is so awesome, that most of us, like utter slaves, cling to it.
drfuzzy
The universe, life, death, everything is just an evidence for his superiority and that he worth it.
That's why we can't see him in this life, that's why he is not human, doesn't need sons or daughters, never was born and never gave birth, single and one, unique and..let's say merciful ? very very very merciful, you can see that here:
you can see the mercy of the lord in mothers, as a starter.
The pain he inflicts too, is the worst, greatest, and most painful.
I'm sorry, but if I noticed that a definition doesnt fit reality, I must object and criticize, that's exactly what you do in the context of your "anti-theism".
Chad32
Needing our mothers since the moment we are born acts as a counter argument here.
In terms of defining worship, the "master/slave" relationship is very unique in its definition and at many time; we can not avoid projecting it on what we experience, think like the brain and our members: that's a relationship that cannot be described with something other than a "master/slave" relation, a simple validation can tell a lot about the person stands.
Alex K
It is not about the function. It was always about who gave you the means to "survive" these functions; or let's say:who gave us the fuel?
The mandatory state in which our bodies work in, is slavery. We are prisonors of this flesh and bone.
You got it all wrong.
robvalue
Your heart is begging for our God's mercy when it asks you to breath clean air, your throat bows so you seek the blessing of our God, even if you never admitted it, it is real.. And life is so awesome, that most of us, like utter slaves, cling to it.
Quote:drfuzzy
The universe, life, death, everything is just an evidence for his superiority and that he worth it.
That's why we can't see him in this life, that's why he is not human, doesn't need sons or daughters, never was born and never gave birth, single and one, unique and..let's say merciful ? very very very merciful, you can see that here:
Quote: you can see the mercy of the lord in mothers, as a starter.
The pain he inflicts too, is the worst, greatest, and most painful.
He's perfect.
We can't see him because he doesn't exist.
I should introduce you to MY Mother. You'd be curled up in a corner crying like a baby within a half hour. No mercy of any kind there, ever.
Your imaginary friend is just one of thousands that human beings have made up.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
(March 15, 2016 at 6:05 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: you can see the mercy of the lord in mothers, as a starter.
The pain he inflicts too, is the worst, greatest, and most painful.
He's perfect.
Have you ever bothered to cast even a fleeting look at animals?
(March 15, 2016 at 6:05 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: I'm sorry, but if I noticed that a definition doesnt fit reality,
And you know what reality is? Man, you had better write that down and send to the Nobel Prize committee, because that would be the find of all time. The human race has been looking for that answer for probably 40,000+ years. Kudos guy. When you write your book, can I get an autograph?
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
(March 14, 2016 at 11:30 am)robvalue Wrote: Anything worthy of worship wouldn't want it.
I'm not worshiping anything. Even if god was the greatest thing ever. We can be great mates. I can be thankful. But I'm not fucking crawling around on the floor. If other people want to do that, fine.
You can't spend your life breaking the rules of the universe; that's how you live.
downbeadplumb
If worshiping something, is life itself, then so be it
Panaatheist
Not necessarily, a slave can be forced to worship what they don't like; history has tons of examples. The rituals are something totally different than submission and surrendering yourself to the service of the entity of choice. Rituals are part of the whole process, but as they are in their core: services to remind the follower.
Mister Agenda
The way I see many humans obsessed about food, or how they look, obsessed with money and drenching to their ears in certain hobbies, well I have to raise the question and underline me a note
Excited Penguin
NO ! Please don't Expose me for who I am !
GawdZilla
Since we're talking about drive-by posts, it would be so cool to play this in my next drive-by posting:
such a spam !!!
Esquilax
Why do we sleep?
The Valkyrie
God is not a human; he doesn't "need". He creates.
An entity so strange to us, familiar but superior to a scary level, merciful beyond believe, it's there always was and always will be. When we service God, we survive. This is how he defined life.
You don't get to object. The sun is always there either you liked or not, so as the sky, so as God, and worshiping him is the essence of life. The light shining our past and future.
Chas
Convince me !
I do read all the posts, nothing shook it off my head yet. Why would I give up ?
Zebo-the-fat
Nothing. He's not human. He's not a creature like us.
Atlas, are we going to get anything out of you that isn't merely proselytising and wanking off your pet god?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
March 15, 2016 at 7:47 pm (This post was last modified: March 15, 2016 at 7:47 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(March 14, 2016 at 10:23 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: The illusion of a "Godless" journey through life is so fragile in its core, that is; cracks can appear so easily with the slightest thought or behavior analysis.
Every bit of human body, the word "human" itself, is nothing more but a group of functions existing to serve: thus we, are nothing but the same biological organism that is surviving -ironically- via self inflicted services, which are given to the body since birth.
We cannot even comprehend the idea of independence: everything to us -by default- is defined with the same image -that is us-: a client being served; a cause and effect.
If worship is -in its core- a service, then how is an atheist considered to be a "Godless" human being?
Isn't it more accurate to describe the person's God, as him/herself, his/her nation, his/her government?
If somebody spent all of their lives "worshiping" themselves and claiming to be "atheists", wouldn't that tell us that there are no true atheists?
Consider whatever holy, and spend them years building it up obsessively; and here you go: that's your God.
Humans are made to worship. Made to serve.
Atheism might be defined more accurately with it being the lack of belief in a certain "God(s)", but not all Gods. Every person has a God after all. Nobody is Godless.
What a nauseating viewpoint, abdicating self-responsibility in exchange for the "comfort" of servility. "Made to worship" *snort* You'll need to demonstrate we were made, first.
(March 15, 2016 at 7:39 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Atlas, are we going to get anything out of you that isn't merely proselytising and wanking off your pet god?
I'm only advicing a world that I see grim, dark and full of holes.
I'm not happy with life, it's short, it's grim, and painful in many cases. My God brings me a peace of mind that I want others to know.
He made me understand this pain, and made me look at life from a very different prespective.
What you criticize me for doing, will be something you wish if you have payed attention to. Let's see the truth of that soon.
We are not the first generation to walk this earth..