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RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope?
March 16, 2016 at 4:25 am
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Donald Trump could still go as an independent, as he's ripping the Republican party apart. Just putting it out there. In which case maybe Sanders could got independent too? There more major independent candidates there are the cheaper it is to run. Plus the Republican vote will be split so people have lass to fear.
Additionally, Sanders has the money to keep fighting. He has loads of money behind his campaign l; more than many people realize. And he has said he will fight until the very end - like Hillary did in 2008 when she refused to admit defeat
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RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope?
March 16, 2016 at 4:52 am
(March 16, 2016 at 4:25 am)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: Donald Trump could still go as an independent, as he's ripping the Republican party apart. Just putting it out there. In which case maybe Sanders could got independent too? There more major independent candidates there are the cheaper it is to run. Plus the Republican vote will be split so people have lass to fear.
Maybe so, but Bernie is too smart to do that, he knows there's too much on the line. If Bernie Sanders loses the Democratic nomination, I have a hard time believing he will run as an independent and virtually guarantee Trump's victory.
Trump is going to win the Republican nomination. He made major inroads on that today. He's got a 230 delegate lead, and that's without Missouri's 52 delegates, of which he gets at least 12, and then 5 more for each of the 8 districts he won.
It's going to be Trump vs. the democratic nominee, likely Hillary. I treat a vote for Hillary as nothing more than a vote against Trump.
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RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope?
March 16, 2016 at 4:59 am
Sanders has loads of money he can still spend. He out spent Hillary and all of the Republicans in. Michigan. And, on top of that, he doesn't have the donor class telling him to end his campaign. If he had big donors, they'd have pulled the plug long ago. Fact is, he's raised tens of millions from ordinary Americans so he won't want to let them down.
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RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope?
March 16, 2016 at 5:01 am
I'm not saying Bernie should drop out yet. I am saying if he loses the nomination, he won't continue as an independent.
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RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope?
March 16, 2016 at 5:23 am
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There's really not much hope for him anymore. Unless miracles happen, it's over for Sanders. 
Remember, he's too far behind now in terms of delegates (excluding superdelegates). He has to win big in all the upcoming major states, like really big, if he wants a chance for nomination. As it is now, it doesn't look like it at all and unlikely things will change.
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RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope?
March 16, 2016 at 5:50 am
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What I have to say to any Sanders supporter:
He's gonna lose, dude, and that's a good thing so let it die already. We indulged your innocent idealism enough, now it's time to get real.
Just imagine he could've won the nomination. Are you seriously willing to risk a Cruz/Trump presidency because you're high on expectation? Get real. Get behind Clinton. U.S. isn't ready to vote for a socialist agenda. It just isn't. It should be, but it isn't. So, please, don't guarantee the placement of a lunatic at the helm of one of the most powerful countries in the world.
Thankfully yours, a citizen of said world.
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RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope?
March 16, 2016 at 6:08 am
(March 16, 2016 at 3:40 am)Nymphadora Wrote: Personally, I don't want Trump in the White house. I don't want Hillary either, but when it comes down to it, if she gets the nomination, I'd rather see a dem there than a repub. We need to keep Trump out of the White house by any means necessary if Sanders does not get the nomination
This is a scary time for our country and our youngest generation of voters needs to wake up and realize the importance of voting correctly.
I think the older generations need to realize the importance of voting correctly, they are the ones who put this country in the state it's in.
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RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope?
March 16, 2016 at 6:58 am
(March 16, 2016 at 5:01 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: I'm not saying Bernie should drop out yet. I am saying if he loses the nomination, he won't continue as an independent.
And what I'm saying is if Trump doesn't get enough delegates (a plurality) the RNC will try and wrestle the nomination from him. If there is a brokered convention Trump will be so angry. In that scenario he will run as an independent.
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RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope?
March 16, 2016 at 7:41 am
(March 16, 2016 at 6:58 am)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: (March 16, 2016 at 5:01 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: I'm not saying Bernie should drop out yet. I am saying if he loses the nomination, he won't continue as an independent.
And what I'm saying is if Trump doesn't get enough delegates (a plurality) the RNC will try and wrestle the nomination from him. If there is a brokered convention Trump will be so angry. In that scenario he will run as an independent.
I think you're right in that scenario. If Trump has the most delegates by a lot and the RNC gives the nomination to Kasich at a contested convention instead, I do believe Trump will run independent.
Bernie running as an independent in that scenario would be just as bad. Turn a sure thing into a maybe.
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RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope?
March 16, 2016 at 8:27 am
(March 16, 2016 at 3:51 am)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: (March 16, 2016 at 3:40 am)Nymphadora Wrote: This is a scary time for our country and our youngest generation of voters needs to wake up and realize the importance of voting correctly.
What does that mean? Are you saying people shouldn't vote for the candidates which they most agree with? The fact that both front-runners are so polarizing shows how broken the two-party system is.
Why shouldn't people vote for someone else? Why should people continue to give a system they don't like legitimacy? I fully support people who say they will vote for Jill Stein if Senator Sanders doesn't get the Democratic ticket.
Yeah but you don't really give a fuck who becomes president do you? You probably don't think Trump or some other republican president can't go off adventuring with the military and get your ass drafted or contribute to losing abortion as an option or weaken government oversight so that more people lose their life savings or put more gestapo bastards on the supreme court to approve policies that further advantage corporations over people. No, you just want to see someone elected who voices things you feel passionately about - whether they can actually achieve anything with the minuscule power the office affords or not. Well on the behalf of the rest of us, thanks a lot.
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