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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 31, 2016 at 12:25 am
(March 31, 2016 at 12:10 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: (March 30, 2016 at 11:13 pm)Godschild Wrote: Self fulfilling you got to be kidding me. It took international support and decisions and approval for Israel to become a nation again. No other nation has arose after such a long period of time, all other peoples have been assimilated into other nations and cultures, self fulfilling that's just ridiculous.
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Several countries bent over backwards to make Israel a nation in a deliberate attempt to fulfill what they thought was a bible prophecy, and you don't think that's a self-fulfilling prophecy? You do know what a self-fulfilling prophecy is, right?
Your statement is self fulfilling in your mind, yet quite untrue.
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 31, 2016 at 12:28 am
Dear mother fucking goddess, this dissension again?
There is a major difference between secular faith and religious faith.
Must I honestly reiterate?
Secular faith: I have faith that the sun will rise tomorrow. Since it does rise every day, that is pretty much a given to which anyone and everyone can attest.
Religious faith: I have faith that god will allow the sun to rise tomorrow. Since there is no proof for the existence of god, it is quite apparent that the sun rises without any divinity.
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 31, 2016 at 12:31 am
So you DON'T know what a self-fulfilling prophecy is. Got it.
By the way, nobody has to take it on faith that their car will start or that they will wake up in the morning. There are good reasons to believe those things, and those reasons are called evidence. Your god doesn't have any of that, which is why it takes faith to believe in him.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 31, 2016 at 12:43 am
(March 31, 2016 at 12:28 am)Kitan Wrote: Dear mother fucking goddess, this dissension again?
There is a major difference between secular faith and religious faith.
Must I honestly reiterate?
Secular faith: I have faith that the sun will rise tomorrow. Since it does rise every day, that is pretty much a given to which anyone and everyone can attest.
Religious faith: I have faith that god will allow the sun to rise tomorrow. Since there is no proof for the existence of god, it is quite apparent that the sun rises without any divinity.
Secular faith: anticipating the most likely result based on an event's probability, its frequency, and our knowledge of the elements in play. It's entirely based on observable reality.
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 31, 2016 at 12:45 am
(March 31, 2016 at 12:43 am)KevinM1 Wrote: Secular faith: anticipating the most likely result based on an event's probability, its frequency, and our knowledge of the elements in play. It's entirely based on observable reality.
Precisely.
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 31, 2016 at 9:08 am
(March 16, 2016 at 3:48 am)1994Californication Wrote: God creates everything, including Adam and Eve.Adam and Eve eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil...the tree of knowledge (does that mean god wanted us to be stupid? Or just to mindlessly obey - I mean, is the "wrong" done here because they disobeyed, or because they gained the knowledge of good and evil) and then banished them from the garden, before they could eat from the tree of life (that would give them eternal life) - after playing a game of hide and seek.And its never explained why that tree was there in the first place or what was the deal with the talking snake(most Christians would say it was Satan but it was never explicitly stated as such).
This is Christianity's way to tell you to stay away from science because once you educate yourself enough, you'll see the flaws in the stories and with that your blind obedience and voluntary slavory will be gone and the greatest criminal organization of all times won't have who to rob.
Unfortunately for them, the entire bible is full of ridiculous stories, including the one about Noah.
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
April 2, 2016 at 3:45 am
(March 31, 2016 at 9:08 am)rado84 Wrote: (March 16, 2016 at 3:48 am)1994Californication Wrote: God creates everything, including Adam and Eve.Adam and Eve eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil...the tree of knowledge (does that mean god wanted us to be stupid? Or just to mindlessly obey - I mean, is the "wrong" done here because they disobeyed, or because they gained the knowledge of good and evil) and then banished them from the garden, before they could eat from the tree of life (that would give them eternal life) - after playing a game of hide and seek.And its never explained why that tree was there in the first place or what was the deal with the talking snake(most Christians would say it was Satan but it was never explicitly stated as such).
This is Christianity's way to tell you to stay away from science because once you educate yourself enough, you'll see the flaws in the stories and with that your blind obedience and voluntary slavory will be gone and the greatest criminal organization of all times won't have who to rob.
Unfortunately for them, the entire bible is full of ridiculous stories, including the one about Noah.
The Bible itself says that all of the stories are just fairy tales. Only dummies take them literally.
2 Maccabees 15:39 (CEB) = "Leaving the responsibility for accuracy in the details to the original writer, we must follow the guidelines for preparing a summary."
As it says in the second clause of verse 2 Maccabees 15:39 (CEB) = "...so also may the writing of this story delight the ears of those who encounter this work. The end."
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
April 3, 2016 at 10:05 am
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(March 31, 2016 at 12:25 am)Godschild Wrote: (March 31, 2016 at 12:10 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: ..
Your statement is self fulfilling in your mind, yet quite untrue.
Of course the same rules don't apply to you.
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