His throne is on water..stunning scientific theory that the Quran foretold 1400 y ago

[ReptilianPeon]

[WinterHold]

[ReptilianPeon]

[WinterHold]

[WinterHold]

I wanted to add, that the real argument that would destroy Islam -just like I told the member before you, MNMP-, would be an to find mistakes in the scientific refrences in the book.

[robvalue]

There aren't any scientific references. So you've set up an impossible standard there.

There are extremely vague statements which don't come anywhere close to being scientific.

Also, if you're allowed to interpret metaphorically all the things that are just plain incorrect, it's again an impossible standard to "prove it wrong".

The sensible position is to try and prove something positive about the book, not assume it is right and ask someone to prove it wrong. That's the argument from ignorance.

[ReptilianPeon]

[paulpablo]

[Jenny A]

Then you have a logical problem.  If the verse describing super fluid provides stunning proof of the divine inspiration of the Koran because the Koran predicted a scientific finding hundreds of years in advance, than it's describing a the failed hypothesis must be proof it's not being divinely inspired.  The only way out of the dilemma is to admit the truth, which is that it doesn't really describe super fluid or at the very least doesn't describe it well enough to be evidence of anything.

No, it means that my interpretation was wrong, that's all.
Mohammed  -the prophet- is dead. I can't ask him.

Though I can ask God, until we swim out to shore or drink from the void, nobody can be certain; Jenny.

Choose either:

1) The verses are too vague to be relied upon as a description of super fluids;

OR

2) The verses clearly describe super fluids.


In the first case there is nothing miraculous. In the second, the accuracy of the Koran hangs in the balance.

I choose 1. I don't think super fluid is even hinted at in the verses you quote. Therefore the hypothesis of super fluid is irrelivant to the accuracy or inaccuracy of the Koran.

You are attempting to choose 2 if the theory of super fluids is correct and 1 if is not. That won't wash. Either the verses are clear or they aren't. If they aren't, there is nothing miraculous about them. If they are, then disproving super fluids disproves them.

[Redbeard The Pink]

Ok, so are there any books of magic that you don't accept as god-inspired? Something non-Abrahamic, perhaps? If I could find a vague reference to fluid or liquid in one of those books, would you suddenly start believing in that? What if I found something about magical fluid in one of the Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings books? Would those be prophecies about super-fluid?


I'm just trying to parse out when a block of text that talks about liquids is or isn't a prophecy about super-fluid, and how you tell the difference.