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His throne is on water..stunning scientific theory that the Quran foretold 1400 y ago
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His throne is on water..stunning scientific theory that the Quran foretold 1400 y ago
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...fluid.html

Allah has told us about this already, Allah (God) resides above all in the 7th heaven, with "his throne being atop of water"..As strange as it may sound, that's how he,God, phrased this 1400 years ago. He revealed this fact to Mohaamed -Peace be Upon Him-, and Mohammed -who couldn't even read or right- reported it to the illiterate Arabs of the Middle Ages.

(Sura 11 Verse 7 )   And it is He who created the heavens and the earth in six days - and His Throne had been upon water - that He might test you as to which of you is best in deed. But if you say, "Indeed, you are resurrected after death," those who disbelieve will surely say, "This is not but obvious magic."

You will rise after you die..God exists. It can't be; a nomad in the desert before 1400 years ago wouldn't have ever thought about such thing.
He is testing us. And this life is nothing but a test..no wonder space/time wasn't so nice to our bodies; we are drowning..

Space/time is crushing us.  

God exists. 

We are being tested.
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RE: His throne is on water..stunning scientific theory that the Quran foretold 1400 y ago
He might just be testing your gullibility.
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RE: His throne is on water..stunning scientific theory that the Quran foretold 1400 y ago
Anything to fit your fragile, yet prideful beliefs huh?
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RE: His throne is on water..stunning scientific theory that the Quran foretold 1400 y ago
I'm sitting on my throne right now and am also above water.
I have also just released allah into the water for a swim. :-)
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RE: His throne is on water..stunning scientific theory that the Quran foretold 1400 y ago
You're stretching this quite a bit here. Grasping at straws. The only thing that's going to prove that any gods exist, is if we find one. We haven't found any thrones yet, so I'm not converting to islam.
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(March 24, 2016 at 7:28 pm)Chad32 Wrote: You're stretching this quite a bit here. Grasping at straws. The only thing that's going to prove that any gods exist, is if we find one. We haven't found any thrones yet, so I'm not converting to islam.

Found him....in the water.

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Ambigous holy shit, as is usual with every religion. Min made the point pretty clearly.
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RE: His throne is on water..stunning scientific theory that the Quran foretold 1400 y ago
(March 24, 2016 at 6:58 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...fluid.html

Allah has told us about this already, Allah (God) resides above all in the 7th heaven, with "his throne being atop of water"..As strange as it may sound, that's how he,God, phrased this 1400 years ago. He revealed this fact to Mohaamed -Peace be Upon Him-, and Mohammed -who couldn't even read or right- reported it to the illiterate Arabs of the Middle Ages.

(Sura 11 Verse 7 )   And it is He who created the heavens and the earth in six days - and His Throne had been upon water - that He might test you as to which of you is best in deed. But if you say, "Indeed, you are resurrected after death," those who disbelieve will surely say, "This is not but obvious magic."

You will rise after you die..God exists. It can't be; a nomad in the desert before 1400 years ago wouldn't have ever thought about such thing.
He is testing us. And this life is nothing but a test..no wonder space/time wasn't so nice to our bodies; we are drowning..

Space/time is crushing us.  

God exists. 

We are being tested.

So if the super fluid hypothesis turns out to be wrong, you'll admit the Koran is fundamentally flawed and Allah was not the prophet of god?
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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RE: His throne is on water..stunning scientific theory that the Quran foretold 1400 y ago
(March 24, 2016 at 6:58 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...fluid.html

Allah has told us about this already, Allah (God) resides above all in the 7th heaven, with "his throne being atop of water"..As strange as it may sound, that's how he,God, phrased this 1400 years ago. He revealed this fact to Mohaamed -Peace be Upon Him-, and Mohammed -who couldn't even read or right- reported it to the illiterate Arabs of the Middle Ages.

(Sura 11 Verse 7 )   And it is He who created the heavens and the earth in six days - and His Throne had been upon water - that He might test you as to which of you is best in deed. But if you say, "Indeed, you are resurrected after death," those who disbelieve will surely say, "This is not but obvious magic."

You will rise after you die..God exists. It can't be; a nomad in the desert before 1400 years ago wouldn't have ever thought about such thing.
He is testing us. And this life is nothing but a test..no wonder space/time wasn't so nice to our bodies; we are drowning..

Space/time is crushing us.  

God exists. 

We are being tested.

So I'll begin by noting my amusement that you leaped from an article about an untested hypothetical quantum model- an article that literally opens by asking an as-yet unanswered question- to "god exists," based on your unjustified assumption that the answer to the question, that the physicists haven't gotten around to yet, is an unqualified yes. You can tell a lot about a person's motives by the leaps they make, and in your case it's never been clearer that you're attempting to steer the science to a predetermined conclusion, circling the hits and ignoring the misses in a classic example of the sharpshooter fallacy, rather than allowing all the facts to shape your conclusion for you.

As it happens though, it's trivially easy to prove your shark-jumping bullshit wrong: the verse you posted specifies water, not liquid. Even during the time that the verse was written there were other liquids than water, and so there's no linguistic escape hatch for you to take here: not all liquids are water, and water is not the only liquid. Water, in fact, has a very strictly defined chemical makeup that this quantum liquid, even if it were to be proven absolutely true, would not share. In no sense would this liquid be water, which is what the verse says specifically: the verse cannot be talking about this quantum fluid.

This is about as ridiculous as you rushing in here with a new scientific discovery that shows that the universe is composed of liquid helium, and then crowing "ha! Islam is correct! Allah said his throne sits upon water!"

... Okay, but the science doesn't say anything about water. Like, at all.
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His throne is on water. stunning scientific theory that the Quran foretold 1400 y ago
(March 24, 2016 at 6:58 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...fluid.html

Allah has told us about this already, Allah (God) resides above all in the 7th heaven, with "his throne being atop of water"..As strange as it may sound, that's how he,God, phrased this 1400 years ago. He revealed this fact to Mohaamed -Peace be Upon Him-, and Mohammed -who couldn't even read or right- reported it to the illiterate Arabs of the Middle Ages.

(Sura 11 Verse 7 )   And it is He who created the heavens and the earth in six days - and His Throne had been upon water - that He might test you as to which of you is best in deed. But if you say, "Indeed, you are resurrected after death," those who disbelieve will surely say, "This is not but obvious magic."

You will rise after you die..God exists. It can't be; a nomad in the desert before 1400 years ago wouldn't have ever thought about such thing.
He is testing us. And this life is nothing but a test..no wonder space/time wasn't so nice to our bodies; we are drowning..

Space/time is crushing us.  

God exists. 

We are being tested.


What's sad is that you are unable to understand how ridiculous this is.

First of all, you are trying to retrofit the meanderings of ancient texts into modern discoveries. This fails on so many levels.

ALL ancient religious texts can be made, post hoc, to sound like they have modern science in them. 

For example. Here is a quote from the Hindu Bhagavata that sounds just like it is describing atomic theory. 

“The material manifestation’s ultimate particle, which is indivisible and not formed into a body, is called the atom – Param anuh. It exists always as an invisible identity, even after the dissolution of all forms. The material body is but a combination of such atoms, but it is misunderstood by the common man. ” (Bhagavata Purana 3.11.1)

And this text was written at least 300 year before the Koran.

I guess that means the Hindu god exists. Right?

So, was this Hindu verse really describing atomic theory? Or is it more possible that it meant something else, and it only sounds, retroactively, like modern science?

I'll bet you don't believe that the Hindu god informed ancient Hindus of modern science.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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